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To: Critter
Bro, I checked out that site.."Vets with a Mission" and I'll probably catch some flak from this reply, but I don't much care....I couldn't give a rat's ass less as to what happens to that mudhole over there...as far as I'm concerned it's a slap in the face to every name that is written on the black piece o stone in DC for Our Country to even think about trade with them Commie Bastards and help rebuilding it.....I think to many people have forgotten that we gave it back to the NVA commies in April 1975...so what did my bro's that came home with wounded bodies, wounded souls, wounded spirits, wounded minds and the one's that didn't come home at all go over there in the first place for?? Bitter?? Hell yeah I'm bitter !! Pissed?? Hell yeah I'm pissed !! And I'm proud of it !! I wear it as a badge of Honor for all the bro's that went to that shit hole believing what they were doing was right !!! Then all the "warm and fuzzy" liberals that protested the war 30 years ago and spit on us, and carried peace signs come out of the wood work and tells the Country we should rebuild it and trade with them....well the HELL WITH THAT !!! I'd like to trade with them......I'll give em every left wing liberal Jane (traitorous Bitch) Fonda type in this Country for just some o my bro's back.....I think those boyz that are "Vets with a Mission" ought to rethink their mission !!! Its Just a Nam Thing
271 posted on 03/07/2002 7:28:56 AM PST by 1stbn27
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To: 1stbn27
You wont catch any flack from me... I went into that site via the back door from a link from another site. After I posted about it, I wandered around a bit more and discovered what it was all about.

If I could have taken back my post, I would have. But I couldn't, so I posted a bit of a retraction afterward. (see above)

They seem more like a bunch of commie lovers than anything else.

Sorry if my post offends anyone. That's what I get for not having a thorough look first.

273 posted on 03/07/2002 4:10:56 PM PST by Critter
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To: Critter;1stbn27;68 Grunt;SAMWolf;68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub;Jim Robinson;river rat;ImpBill;Oldvike...
HI Critter . I went to the site. I always am thankful to see any site about Vietnam vets, it is good for me to see what is going on.Wether I agree with each site is a different thing.

I thank you for the site link.Here is a Snow Bunny run down of how I feel about it.

In a short version it gave me the same feeling as people that could vote for a draft dodger for President.

In a longer answer, I have seen pictures of Vietnam and how they are suffering from Agent Orange and children huddled together with their mothers.That is what my eyes see, my heart on the other hand sees something else.

During the war the enemy was not only a man with a gun, it was women, children, of all ages seeking to kill our men. Not only kill but dance around, sing and rejoice in the kill. Mutulation after their kills of our servicemen. Horrific things to much to speak of on here.
A woman walking down a path holding her hat with danger under it for our troops.So many things that our media, solid lefties, never told john Q public.

Their treatment of POW's is beyond belief. Their lies from their governement to return our servicemen has been one lie, one false deal after the other.

When traitor, draft dodger Clinton went there they told our government we could not fly the American Flag within a certain range of their country.

They are our enemy and doing trade with them to me is unforgivable. The vets at that site that think perhaps for some reason that it is a way of healing relations are only kidding themselves. They , the vets, should seek healing in other ways. Seeking out other Vietnam vets, sharing, talking, crying together, cussing together, getting mad together,get drunk together.....anything would be better then kissing up to those in Vietnam.They are NOT to be trusted, not then, not now , not ever.

Our country has given those that came from Vietnam money to start businesses. OUR tax dollars and this is wrong too.Americans that have been born here do not get this help, but the people coming from Nam got it.

So my feeling is these vets are wrong, they are kidding themselves and those they meet on their trips back to Nam are only laughing at them on the inside." Crazy American,stupid American. ". They are like my dog,that barks and wags his tail at the same time.At a stranger he does not trust nor has any intention of befriending.

OUR vets are dying from Agent Orange where is the concern for this.OUR vets are suffering from emotions from the war where is Americas concern for this.OUR vets were spit on,kept from attending Universities , colleges, getting work, families telling them they did not want to hear about IT."Good to see you son, but I don't want to hear about it."

Our vets were told, don't tell anyone here at the plant you are a Nam vet, just do your job.Our Vets, our POW's MIA's are still there, where is the outrage across America to end this insanity of not making sure they are all brought home. Our vets , our Vietnam veterans, Americans that said yes I will go and paid the price, a high price for my freedom and my liberty. NOT those children and women and men in Vietnam, but my brothers and sisters that went to Vietnam, my fellow Americans.My Vietnam Veteran family that will live in my heart forever.

Critter I am grateful to see that site, because it shows me not to be so shocked when I hear of a Vietnam vet voting for a draft dodger for the most powerful job in the world in the most powerful country in the world.
((((( hug ))))

I would like to share this with you all......SAMWolf posted it at the USO FReeper Canteen FReeper Style one day months ago.......

JUDGE ME BY THE FOOTPRINTS I LEAVE BEHIND

A story is told about a soldier who was finally coming home after having fought in Vietnam.

He called his parents from San Francisco.
"Mom and Dad, I'm coming home, but I've got a favor to ask. I have a friend I'd like to bring with me."

"Sure," they replied, "we'd love to meet him."

"There's something you should know the son continued, "he was hurt pretty badly in the fighting. He stepped on a land mined and lost an arm and a leg. He has nowhere else to go, and I want him to come live with us."

"I'm sorry to hear that, son. Maybe we can help him find somewhere to live."

"No, Mom and Dad, I want him to live with us."

"Son," said the father, "you don't know what you're asking. Someone with such a handicap would be a terrible burden on us.
We have our own lives to live, and we can't let something like this interfere with our lives. I think you should just come home and forget about this guy. He'll find a way to live on his own."

At that point, the son hung up the phone. The parents heard nothing more from him.

A few days later, however, they received a call from the San Francisco police. Their son had died after falling from a building, they were told. The police believed it was suicide.

The grief-stricken parents flew to San Francisco and were taken to the city morgue to identify the body of their son. They recognized him, but to their horror they also discovered something they didn't know, their son had only one arm and one leg.

And this is a song that I love...........

Please turn up your volume, after you get to the site, close your eyes and let us never ever forget, that FReedom isi NEVER Free.

http://lbjspatrioticwebpages.homestead.com/SomeGaveAll.html

274 posted on 03/07/2002 4:13:43 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: 1stbn27
Oh, and just to clarify, the link I followed took me to the pictorial essay from which the picture came that I used in my 1st post. It was very well done.

But this still doesn't excuse my error.

BTW, I remember vividly, watching the candy ass, chicken $h!t south vietnamese running like a bunch of sissies, from the NVA in 1975. The only reason it took as long as it did for the south to give up Saigon is they could only run so fast...

277 posted on 03/07/2002 4:25:44 PM PST by Critter
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To: 1stbn27
Hey 1stbn27, why don't you tell me whatcha really think, without all the diplomatic wording you used! ;^)
292 posted on 03/08/2002 9:39:04 AM PST by 68 grunt
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