[Hemingway's Ghost]

Whether you like it or not, our Puritan ancestors, who believed that human nature is totally depraved, are very much responsible for our system of government now.

Really. So you completely agree with Winthrop's "City on a Hill" commune speech?

[FreedominJesusChrist]

John Winthrop's 'City on a Hill' sermon was not about communes. That is the wackiest interpretation that I have ever heard. It was a sermon about America being the shining city on the hill through strong morals and living the life of a Christian. He was envisioning a more moral and God-fearing society, not a commune 70's style.