[jf55510]

Yes, I understand. Tell me, how is it that you got through all the grade school and high school propaganda, with a mind of your own? Probably enlightened parents, I'm thinking.

I grew up in Plano, Texas. Very conservative family oriented area. The school district pushed an agenda of cirriculum not propaganda. I cannot remember having a single teacher that was completly left minded. We were never that well off but rich enough to where we could live well. Since I turned 16 I had to work, because that was how my father and mother were raised and it was not going to be any different.

I doubt if there are any campus branches of the GOOD GREENS, but I could be wrong. But it would be a lonely fight, with what students are being force-fed on so many issues. Maybe you could get your own website and publish things you see here. You could hand out business cards with your URL on it.

They are pretty bad but it would be worse, I could be at UC-Berkley. But since I am in Texas it is not that bad. I know that there is at least one of my friends that is here, but I think that he only lurks. And I got my brother who is a freshman at Boston College lurking here as well. I would like to do a website but there are not enough hours in the day right now for all of my work(I guess it would help to get off FR) but I still fight the good fight when I can.

It's still very hard for me to accept the fact that the modern college campus is no longer the breeding ground for debate on both sides of burning issues of the day, as it once was. Sad.

You only have the right to freedom of speech when you agree with other side. When Horowitz came out with his 10 Reasons Reparations are Wrong and Racist To add last year, I proposed that the College Republicans(I am a part of that org.) buy an add in the newspaper and put it in. But I was overruled because they were afraid of the response that we would get, because it was to controversial. Yeah it is sad but hopefully with the older profs leaving the newer ones will be better.

[madfly]

I grew up in Plano, Texas. Very conservative family oriented area. The school district pushed an agenda of cirriculum not propaganda. I cannot remember having a single teacher that was completly left minded. We were never that well off but rich enough to where we could live well. Since I turned 16 I had to work, because that was how my father and mother were raised and it was not going to be any different.

Sounds like a good environment for learning. I also started working when I was 16, at the main library. You can learn alot from being on the same team as people your parent's age or older, when you're young and full of questions. You have excellent writing skills, and this reflects on your earlier education. If you don't have a good understanding of the English language, with all it's complexities and contradictions, before you enter college, you can't play catch up with remedial courses and match what 12 years of grammar, reading, spelling, composition affords you. It's damn good to see a college kid who can write!

You only have the right to freedom of speech when you agree with other side.

This is the result of the absence of DEBATE, or discussion, or reading a good variety of books on a topic, from different views. It's how people are taught to think, deduce, analyze information and ideas. It seems now, kids are taught to pass tests. Outcome based education. I really admire people who homeschool when faced with the "new" teaching methods.

I proposed that the College Republicans(I am a part of that org.) buy an add in the newspaper and put it in. But I was overruled because they were afraid of the response that we would get, because it was to controversial.

Well keep the faith and keep speaking up, because a lot of Democrats don't want to be Democrats anymore. It's hard to believe it's only been a little over a year since he was in command. Even Rosie "loves Bush", lol. I'm an ex-hippie, and leaned towards the rats, although I always register non-partisan. I found my way here, as did a lot of people fed up with 8 years of Clinton. I was a recovering liberal a year ago. Been here long enough to "get over it", thank god.

Yeah it is sad but hopefully with the older profs leaving the newer ones will be better.

So you think the tide is changing and there are budding educators who will not follow the biased university texts. After Dr. Hansen, from NASA, retracted his Global Warming theories recently, along with 3 or 4 more similar scientific reports, I want a CALL for correcting all the children's books that center around GLOBAL WARMING and all the other Agenda 21 plans they are working so hard on. And they can DELETE the endless stories of how we Americans-are-killing-the-world crap!

It would be nice to know that the voice of the people who want to save the constitution has made it's way to the ears of those who will be teaching.