[Donald Stone]

Yesterday afternoon, agents assigned to the FBI's shooting review group based in Washington scoured the scene for the agency's internal investigation.

This should read FBI agents needing time to engage in fraud and chicanery so they could conjure up lies to conceal criminal conduct by fellow agents scrubbed the crime scene clean of any evidence that would implicate the FBI or it's agents in criminal conduct in a senseless shooting of an innocent man.

[Dane]

No police or law enforcemwnt agency will ever be perfect. This family will sue and probably win a big reward, but that won't stop the cop haters from doing a "clinton like blood dance" with their replies painting all cops as jack booted thugs.

[Alas]

Child killing scum, typical fbi!

It is time for congress to eliminate this out of control bunch of murdering slim along with their ilk in the batf.

But, with the fbi holding all the files, the congress will show even less manhood in dealing with them then they did with the corrupt rapist terrorist clinton and their phony investigation of the irs.

Congress has about as much guts as the fbi has integrity. None, zip, zero!

All

[Agent Smith]

Here is the conclusion that the "investigation" SHOULD reach. The Firearm instructors of the FBI teach agents that their finger is SUPPOSED to be on the trigger when a suspect is held at gun point. This Agency policy almost guarantees accidental discharges that will injure innocents and criminals, unnecessarily. Stupid and reckless pure and simple, BUT you know the FBI knows the best way to do everything all the time. It is an article of faith. We the Citizens/taxpayers will get to foot the tab, AGAIN.

I suppose it is encouraging that the FBI has learned (from the Miami incident) that long arms (M4s) are a necessaty for felony stops.

For the record, I am not, nor have ever been employed by the FBI, my screen name comes from a central character in the Matrix.

[Inspector Harry Callahan]

TOTALITARIAN NIGHTMARES
Amerika, Amerika
Freud, Propaganda, and the Total State
Suprynowicz - 'Many cops imagine they are in a war zone'

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

The evidence has been growing for years that the level of competency and professionalism in all the federal law enforcement agencies has been falling. I suspect the "internal investigation" of this tragic shooting will be mostly about covering up the responsibility of the FBI agents involved.

I cannot recall a case where agents were held accountable for unlawful or incompetent acts.

The only way for the people to have confidence in any level of law enforcement is for screw-ups to be fired and/or prosecuted. Only then can the people believe incompetence and recklessness will not be tolerated within police agencies.

[AndyJackson]

It's an ongoing investigation, and under most circumstances we do not give out too much information," Maddox said.

Giving out information such as the name of the perp, whether or not these agents were acting on probable cause properly supervised or just freelancing, and whether or not this clown is right now walking the streets armed and dangerous is not giving out information that would prejudice to conduct of an investigation.

If I were on the jury, my sentiments would be as follows: 1. It is clear that a spineless Congress will do nothing to investigate and take effective action to put an end to FBI incompetence. 2. Therefore the only thing that is going to deter them is to give away so much of the FBI's money that even the Congress has to take notice - say about $100 Million or so of taxpayer money which could otherwise be spent on wasteful federal projects. 3. It would also be nice to find that the agents involved and their supervisors were personally financially liable for enough money to ruin their own lives - as an exaple to encourage the others.

[Dialup Llama]

The agent probably had his finger on the trigger 'Elian raid' style which is something you aren't supposed to do.

[Maelstrom]

and Another "Right Wing Wacko" is born.

[Straight Vermonter]

Totally off the subject but who lets their 16 year old daughter date a 20 year old?

[Texbob]

The Keystone Kops are at it again, they must be the most inefficent police force in the world.

[budwiesest]

Joseph Charles Schultz, 20,...Hey, they shot Charlie Brown. DANG!

Seriously, this stop should have been made by officers who see more traffic-stop action, not a couple of plain-clothesed ramboes. Did they even call for back-up or have they been watching too many episodes of COPS?

[Gore_ War_ Vet]

And now, the rest of the story.

[SlickWillard]

I didn't know there was a town called Pasadena in the state of Maryland:

[meadsjn]

Squeeze, Baby, Squeeze

[Twodees]

It's absolutely outrageous for our employees to withhold any information whatsoever about this. They are answerable to us. The DoJ under Clinton was this bad, but people need to realize that this has always been the way the FBI operates, from its earliest beginnings. This is not something that only occurs when a democrat is in office.

Under Nixon, the FBI ran almost totally out of control, arming and training banana republic style death squads on indian reservations. These people have finally come to the point that they aren't even pretending to be an investgative agency anymore. Investigators don't wear black Nomex from head to toe, with black covered Kevlar and ceramic body armor and carry the same weapons issued to Special Forces. Secret Police like the Tontons Macoutes do that.

It's past time that we warn our self proclaimed "leaders" in elected office that this has to stop. We had better stand up, altogether, and demand that this sort of thing cease immediately, or we'll be unable to do so pretty soon.

[the]

Injured FBI agent remains hospitalized [ignites flash-bang device in offcie]

Buffalo News | 12/7/2001 | LOU MICHEL

[WIMom]

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[rodeocowboy]

That's not fair to say. But, given the FBI's past record, along with other Federal Police agencies such as the BATF, I can understand why you said it. I think the US Marshall Service should investigate in order to have a more fair investigation. Just remeber that we have a newer, better chief law enforcer now, John Ashcroft. The FBI and BATF of the past won't get away with the things they got away with under Janet Reno and Billy Klinton as easily.

[Jonathon Spectre]

Who can blame them? Der Fuhrer told them to do it! They were only following orders!

This scumbag will probably get a "black mark" on his "permanant record" and not even be fired.

But hey. Silver lining and all that. Now there are two more kids in America who loathe the political police.

[Illbay]

Tin-foil hat wound a little too tight this morning?