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U.S. Drops Thermobaric Bomb on Afghan Caves
FOX News Alert ^ | March 2, 2002 | Diane Diamond

Posted on 03/02/2002 1:41:41 PM PST by codebreaker

Developing..new weapon system has been used


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To: lawdog
Actually, I'm not sure. They jut came to mind envisioning nice and toasty El Qaeda corpse-sicles produced by a super bomb like only Mom could make.
121 posted on 03/02/2002 7:08:03 PM PST by ThreePantherEightyDuce
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To: SolitaryMan
Now, if Bin Laden or Omar is in this cave, how in the heck are we ever going to prove it

We don't wan to:

My dream comes true:

We flatten The Taliban, and Osama "escapes"...
We hear that he is at the Madrassa schools Pakistan. Flatten Madrassa schools, Osama "escapes"...
We hear that he is in Indonesia. Flatten Indonesia, Osama "escapes"...
We hear he is in Somalia. Flatten Somalia, Osama "escapes"...
He becomes the "Flying Dutchman" of the Muslim world, where ever he is sighted, disaster follows.
It won't be too long before NOBODY wants him in their back yard. Pretty hard to be a martyr under those circumstances. Also we can have "reliable reports" from "secret sources" that he has been spotted anywhere we want him to have been spotted...

By having him hopscotch through the entire non-arab Muslim world first, we preserve the alliance.
By the time we get to Arab countries, they will have lost any moral standing they may have had in the Muslim world...

We keep this up until:
1) State sponsored terrorism stops.
2) The Mythical Moderate Muslism regain control of their religion, or
3) The Koran is read only in hell.

122 posted on 03/02/2002 7:54:57 PM PST by null and void
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To: Lurker
I think that Israel is justified in wiping out all potential suicide bombers and those who support them, and I aware that it might take out 80% of the Palestinians living in the territories. The world just does not need nor want them.
124 posted on 03/02/2002 8:16:08 PM PST by tessalu
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To: codebreaker
Isn't this the bomb that purcusses their lungs out of their body? Yipes
125 posted on 03/02/2002 8:32:18 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: cake_crumb
That Russian thingie sounds like a fart-in-the-wind compared to a 2000 lb. guided BLU-118B"
 
The post was about Russian miniaturizing the thermobaric bombs and make them portable too.
 
They are the first to develop them ( isn't "funny" that ANY news site is not mentioning that  ??????), and they pounded the gorges in Chechnya with the big ( air delivered thousands kilo warheads) version of those.
 
As all of you know, sometimes a smaller weapon is an actual advance, and each type of weapon has it's own destination.
I bet the US forces on the ground could use some portable versions of the thermobaric bombs, since it's much easier and most of the times handier to target a tunnel entrance from the ground.
 
I 'd like to see those that complained about the use of those bombs against Chechen/Arab mujahedins in Chechnya. Silly how situation changes.

126 posted on 03/02/2002 8:52:55 PM PST by TheEnd
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To: codebreaker
Thanks, CB!

Bump!

127 posted on 03/02/2002 9:05:07 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: codebreaker
We need to keep our people lifted up in prayer!
128 posted on 03/02/2002 10:40:45 PM PST by brat
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To: Tacis
The presses are rolling as we post. They don't miss a chance to to do their "Wail" dance on the US in the press.
129 posted on 03/02/2002 10:43:24 PM PST by jwh_Denver
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To: VA Advogado
correction- Sounds like a military version of a CAVE ENIMA
130 posted on 03/02/2002 10:44:44 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: ThreePantherEightyDuce
This comes to mind also:


131 posted on 03/03/2002 5:12:04 AM PST by stboz
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132 posted on 03/03/2002 7:07:23 AM PST by WIMom
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To: KevinDavis
What does it do?

Check this out

Basically kills tunnels.

133 posted on 03/03/2002 7:37:20 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Dog
So the Russian have made these man portable.....we need to buy some...:-)

That's the TGB-7V projectile for the RPG-7 antitank rocket launcher in its many variant forms, and it's certainly available; the Bulgarians are selling them like hotcakes.

Thankfully, the RPG projectiles being used by the Somalis in Mogadishu during the *Blackhawk Down* event in which the US Rangers were killed had *only* the antitank warhead projectiles available to them, still pretty rough on halicopters and light armored vehicles, and murder on troops aboard unarmored trucks, or the US casualties would likely have been far more severe.

5 January 2001

Thermobaric warhead for RPG-7

Terry Gander

Bulgaria has recently developed the GTB-7G grenade with a thermobaric warhead, introducing the potential to expand the basic RPG-7 Knut (Knout) portable rocket launcher into a true multipurpose weapon. The thermobaric warhead utilizes an advanced form of the fuel-air explosive concept.

The contents of the 93mm diameter warhead are scattered in an aerosol form on impact and then ignited to create a rapidly-formed, high-pressure blast wave, equivalent to that produced by the detonation of 2kg of TNT.

The blast effect is such that significant damage can be inflicted on structures, including field fortifications, and lightly armored vehicles.
,br> When launched from an RPG-7 the GTB-7G grenade has a maximum direct-fire range of 200m, with an initial velocity of 66m/sec (the maximum possible range is 1,000m). The grenade weighs 4.7kg and is 1.12m long. It can be utilized with any RPG-7 launcher once the necessary sight adjustments have been made.

Other recently developed alternative warhead grenades for the fin-stabilized rocket have included variations of anti-personnel HE-FRAG.

The manufacturers are the Vazovski Mashinostroitelni Zavodi (Vazov Engineering Plant), based at Sopot.

The RGP-7 rocket launcher is in worldwide use and the GTB-7G grenade is now on offer for export.

The Bulgarian GTB-7G rocket grenade on the left reveals its long domed thermobaric warhead.
On the right is an OG-7VE grenade with an anti-personnel HE-FRAG warhead, also from Bulgaria.

(Source: Terry J Gander)


134 posted on 03/03/2002 10:38:04 AM PST by archy
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To: my trusty sig
Thermobaric. I usually don't go in for poetry....but that's a haiku that has a certain attitude adjusting ring to it.

The bomb falls to earth,
its thermobaric kiss
sweeps away the leaves.

135 posted on 03/03/2002 10:41:30 AM PST by archy
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To: stboz
LOL! Good one.
136 posted on 03/03/2002 11:33:07 AM PST by ThreePantherEightyDuce
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To: TheEnd
I bet the US forces on the ground could use some portable versions of the thermobaric bombs, since it's much easier and most of the times handier to target a tunnel entrance from the ground.

We may have a man-portable version of this weapon, based on the video clip shown on the evening news. It looked like a rocket-propelled grenade flying into a building via an open door or window. The detonation sent flame out of every opening.

I suppose that could've been a video of the Russian weapon, though, knowing the media. Still, I'm inclined to believe that we have some portable weapon to replace the flamethrower.

137 posted on 03/03/2002 11:48:10 AM PST by Cloud William
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To: Cloud William
I suppose that could've been a video of the Russian weapon, though, knowing the media. Still, I'm inclined to believe that we have some portable weapon to replace the flamethrower.

As a matter of fact we do. It's much lighter than my old *Flamethrower, Portable, ABC-M9-7* and the newer *Flash* is disposable after using its four shots, though the expensive optical sight fitted to it is capable of being reused- a nice touch, and it's also much more adaptable to being racked up inside combat vehicles and aircraft- Army chopper crews used to get a little antsy about those bringing flamethrowers aboard their aircraft loaded and fueled, ready to go.

Designed to replace the traditional flamethrower, the M202A2 Flash is a rocket launcher which propels an incindiary projectile. Unlike a conventional flamethrower which shoots a jet of burning gasoline, the M202A2's rocket carries the flammable warhead to the target. When the round strikes the target, the projectile casing is ruptured and the warhead's chemical contents spontaneously combust upon contact with air. Not only does this make the M202A2 safer to use, it increases the effective range considerably. One disadvantage of this design, however, is a dangerous backblast area that extends fifteen meters to the rear of the weapon.

To operate, the weapon's optical sight is snapped onto the left side of the weapon and the front and rear protective covers are opened. The four-round clip of rockets can then be loaded into the rear of the weapon. If the Flash is not to be fired immediately, the entire loaded clip can be pushed inside the launcher and the protective covers can be closed. The M202A2 can be safely carried like this with the loaded rockets inside. Once the operator is ready to use the weapon, the rockets are pulled out to their extended position by using a wire handle fitted to the clip itself. As the rockets lock into place, the M202's firing mechanism is cocked behind the first projectile. After launching the first rocket, the firing mechanism then rotates to fire the next one. This makes the M202A2 Flash semiautomatic and the rockets can be fired almost as quickly as the operator can pull the trigger. After all of the rockets have been fired the launcher is discarded except for the optical sight which is intended to be reused.

The only known use of the M202A2 Flash in combat was in the 1991 Persian Gulf War when the Flash was employed by the SAS during their raids behind Iraqi lines.


138 posted on 03/03/2002 12:50:19 PM PST by archy
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To: xm177e2
Yes. The Russians have used them extensively in Chechnya. The town of Grozny was completely flattened by Thermo-Baric bombs.

Us in the Brit Army have already been briefed on them from intelligence reports from brit special forces units that were operating in Chechnya. I have already explained to some freepers about how Brit FIBUA SOPs are being changed to meet the threats from thermo-baric weapons. Believe it or not, there are ways of staying safe from a vicinity blast from a thermo-baric bomb, so, they aren't the invincible weapons that people may think.

Den

139 posted on 03/03/2002 1:29:54 PM PST by dennybabyboy-fitzy
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Heard of a daisy cutter? This is an OXYGEN SLICER. :)

A cheese cutter? Takes out all the breathable air....

140 posted on 03/03/2002 2:39:01 PM PST by null and void
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