Posted on 03/02/2002 9:37:45 AM PST by GummyIII
Then he definitely moved UP, too!
Jonah
It was funny now that look back on it she ( Hanoi Jane) probably thought I had a lot of nerve, but I would do it again if I ever saw her again.
I used to work out at Gold's gym in Venice Beach Calif.when my husband and I used to live in Malibu, Calif.
For about a month the gym was to be closed due to construction of the newer gym. So I went over to a less equiped place and planned on working out there for the month.It was in Santa Monica and later I found out it was a workout place that Hanoi Jane owned.
I was in my first class there doing exercises.After the class I was in the Ladies dressing room washing my face and in walks Hanoi Jane. I kept my cool and dried off my face as I planned my strategy.
Then walked slowly to my locker and then right up to Hanoi Jane. She said Hello and started to step to the side.
I moved in unison to the side as well and got as close to her face to face as I could.
I am 5'11" and she is not very tall.So being that close up and so much taller I had hoped would make my point even more.
She said " What is it ? "
I replied...."Do you realize that over half of America knows that you are a traitor, that our entire military knows you are a traitor? Are you able to sleep at night with the lives of our men and women that were in the military in Vietnam on your hands.The dead the injured, the ones without limbs or faces....do you ever think about them??Do you like being the most hated women in America?
I would say I felt sorry for you to be hated like that but the thing is non other deserves it more.
Don't answer me, the questions don't need answers , your life has been an answer already."
I turned around, grabbed my gym bag , left and never went back.
Years later I was at a fund raiser in Beverly Hills, and who did I see there.....Hanoi Jane. Someone asked if we had met and I could hear her say....."I have met__________, and she has met me. We fought on different sides in the Vietnam war."
Nice to meet you Jonah.Welcome Home Jonah !!!
You might get a kick out of post #47. HOw funny that is the year I was born too. haahhaaha
Thank you all for serving.
((( hug )))
SOMEWHERE THERE IS A FILM OF THIS!!! Can anyone find it?
Between 1985 and 1988, I WATCHED this film in a documentary about the bitch. I was less electronically-tuned at the time, and I wasn't able to copy the production. I do know that it was on cable in Sacramento, CA.
I wish I could remember exactly what her words were, but a paraphrase is, "OOOOOooooOOOOOooo, I wish an American plane would fly over right now so that I could shoot it down!"
I worry that TEDDY TURNCOAT has purchased the film and destroyed it. BUT SOMEONE MUST HAVE COPIED IT SOMEWHERE!!!
Any ideas????
Since this was a governmental correspondence, this might be a kind of censure mark???
Jonah
She's given a platform to this day by the likes of Barbara Walters, Katie Couric, Diane Sawyer.
She's a traitor for the broadcasts, etc., in 1972, but her crimes against America and our military continue to this day.
Her post-911 comment was that it should not be handled as a military matter, but as a legal matter.
Were she Jane Doe instead of Jane Fonda we could lightly dismiss her.
She still has the world's media as her megaphone and Ted "I'm Really A Communist Although I Play One On TeeVee" Turner's billions when the indictment hits the fan this month.
We are (again) at war, and she is again on the enemy's side.
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I think we are in violent agreement. A willing media spread her garbage, and continues to do so. She did what she did, and will likely never be held criminally accountable for it. I don't like it, but that is the case. Focus on her current anti-American conduct, aided and abetted by a fawning press, in the context of her past communist propoganda.
Hanoi-Vietnam
The following public domain information is a transcript from the US Congress House Committee on Internal Security, Travel to Hostile Areas, HR 16742, 19-25 September, 1972, page 7671. (From the CompuServe Military Veteran's Forum)
[Radio Hanoi attributes talk on DRV visit to Jane Fonda; from Hanoi in English to American servicemen involved in the Indochina War, 1 PM GMT, 22 August 1972. Text: Here's Jane Fonda telling her impressions at the end of her visit to the Democratic Republic of Vietnam; (follows recorded female voice with American accent)
This is Jane Fonda. During my two week visit in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I've had the opportunity to visit a great many places and speak to a large number of people from all walks of life-workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the women's union, writers
I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well.
In the shadow of the Temple of Literature I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller's play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me-the fact that artists here are translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing their country.
I cherish the memory of the blushing militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam-these women, who are so gentle and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are bombing their city, become such good fighters.
I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of civilian targets-schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the dike system. One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow of a doubt since I've been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to break the spirit of these people; he'll never be able to turn Vietnam, north and south, into a neo-colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist.
I've spoken to many peasants who talked about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy, inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives.
But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created-being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools-the children learning, literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives.
And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders-and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism-I don't think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh.
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This was her comment on the POW's
When American POWs finally began to return home (some of them having been held captive for up to nine years) and describe the tortures they had endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese, Jane Fonda quickly told the country that they should "not hail the POWs as heroes, because they are hypocrites and liars." Fonda said the idea that the POWs she had met in Vietnam had been tortured was "laughable," claiming: "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed." The POWs who said they had been tortured were "exaggerating, probably for their own self-interest," she asserted. She told audiences that "Never in the history of the United States have POWs come home looking like football players. These football players are no more heroes than Custer was. They're military careerist and professional killers" who are "trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to law."
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