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How "Hanoi Jane" Betrayed America (Sneak Preview)
Insight Magazine ^ | March 2, 2002 | Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer

Posted on 03/02/2002 9:37:45 AM PST by GummyIII

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To: B4Ranch
Thanks B4 .
121 posted on 03/09/2002 9:39:28 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Euro-American Scum
I am nothing special to be honored, but thank you for your kindness.

It just shocks me how anyone could go along with honoring Jane Fonda for anything.Traitors to America should be delt with , I am sure they have room for her with the terrorits that are detained right now !!She could bunk next to Walker till her sentence is carried out.

122 posted on 03/09/2002 9:56:38 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Twodees
You are so right about the media and Fonda, thank you for your post.
123 posted on 03/09/2002 10:03:53 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: All
Tribute To Vietnam Era Veterans....Welcome Home by Snow Bunny
124 posted on 03/09/2002 10:07:37 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: d14truth
Thanks for responding.
125 posted on 03/09/2002 10:08:57 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Tennessee_Bob;T'wit
Thank you T'wit.

Tennessee_Bob, I had never heard this story before and as I said at the top of my post it was sent to me from a friend.

I agree with your post about it T'wit. Thank you for your comment.

Tennessee_Bob, thank you too for the links about it and I will go to them as well and read about it.

126 posted on 03/09/2002 10:18:53 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: SLB
Thanks for telling me SLB, I have not read it so thank you for telling me about "Bias" by Bernard Goldberg.
127 posted on 03/09/2002 10:32:09 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: MissAmericanPie
HI Miss American Pie, yes, when it is traitors like Clinton and Fonda etc. They do get away with their crimes against America and Americans.

Thank you for your post.

128 posted on 03/09/2002 10:34:53 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: GummyIII
I had been out of the service (101 Airbourne Ranger) when this whore made her trip. I was in Vietnam '67-'68 (Hue--Tet offensive- "Hills 881 & 818" better known as Hamburger Hills (yes, there were more than just one). I served proudly along side of the finest men it has ever been my honor to know.

When this was broadcast on the nightly news I was studying in the dorm lounge (Uncle Sam was footing the bill and I was an honor student in pre-med). The usual lefties were gathered for their nightly bashing of America. I was studying for a Bio-chem exam. I watched in disbelief as this daughter of a great American, Henry Fonda, was interviewing the POWs at the Hanoi Hilton. The lefties in the lounge were laughing and praising Fonda for her "Power to the People" stand with my sworn enemy. I gathered my books and started back to my room very sullen. I couldn't take that anymore! One of the "kids" in the lounge asked me, "What's the matter, old dude?" (I was older than your average college student because I elected to go to Vietnam, and I elected to be a 4 year enlistee, and I elected to be a Ranger, hence the title "Old dude"). I slowly and quietly lost it. These kids only knew me as the dorm rep.(the guy in charge of the dorm. It brought a few extra, and needed bucks) and a fellow student, older, but a fellow student. They never knew I was a Veteran, I never told them , until that moment.

I looked into the eyes of that kid and I said, in my low barritone voice, "I was there"! The room silenced, and I continued, "In my outfit we knew how POWs were treated by the NVA and the Cong. For that reason every man carried 1 .45 cal. round in the breast pocket of his combat fatigues. The intented use of that round was for us, yes us. If all else was lost and you are out of ammo, and the Cong or NVA try to take you alive, you load the round, swallow the barrel of your .45 and do the unthinkable....pull the trigger". I added, "Those poor bastards were taken alive, there won't be much left if we ever get them back"!

As I turned to walk out of the lounge there was no more laughing, and except for the TV in the backgound, there was no noise. I always helped other students with course work, always in the solid sciences and expected little in return (I usually collected my tutoring fees at quarter beer night at Mamma's Pizza joint). I never told another Nam story after that, but they didn't flaunt their anti-war s**t in front of me again. It wasn't tense, it was more comfortable than I had felt since I had started college. They knew my point of view, and they knew that I would not waste time discussing their socialist view of the world. I was there to get the very best education that I could, politics be damned. I had work to do, I had a massive amount of facts to absorb and intern, and I had no time for their rantings about politics. I was a scientist and I had to be the "best that's ever been".

A year or so later, when undergrad Graduation was upon us, I had slowly, and quietly converted some of those same lefties to a more conservative point of thinking. I was even "in bed with the enemy", quite literally. I was involved with a beautiful woman that was the campus "liberal". Proof positive that opposites attract. But that's another story.

129 posted on 03/09/2002 10:38:05 AM PST by timydnuc
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To: Snow Bunny
We have a perfect word for the POW story: myth. A myth is a story that conveys truth without itself being strictly true or factual.

It may not be factual that Fonda caused the death of POWs who smuggled messages to her, but in a larger sense it is true that she desired and acted to kill Americans and to support their enemy in war. That was treason, plain and simple.

That's the Hanoi Jane myth, and it will not go away until the last memory of Vietnam has turned to dust.

130 posted on 03/09/2002 10:43:17 AM PST by T'wit
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To: BraveMan
It is so good to see you BraveMan. Thank you for your post and for being here.
131 posted on 03/09/2002 11:12:32 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: PhilDragoo
Time for talking is Past. Just get the rope./
132 posted on 03/09/2002 11:13:29 AM PST by Zeno44
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To: BigBlueJon
BigBlueJon, thank you for your post and for sharing like that.Your Dad was right, she was and is a traitor to America and to our military. Thanks again my friend.
133 posted on 03/09/2002 11:17:00 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Johnny_Apollo
Hi Johnny, you have a good idea. Thank you for your post.
134 posted on 03/09/2002 11:23:51 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Marine Inspector
Thank you Marine Inspector. I received this in my email from a friend as I also stated at the beginning of my post about it .

Thanks for your post about it.

135 posted on 03/09/2002 11:28:32 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: DoughtyOne
Thank you for responding and I agree with you.
136 posted on 03/09/2002 11:31:48 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
I look forward to her death!!
137 posted on 03/09/2002 11:51:34 AM PST by Nitro
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To: Snow Bunny
Great comments #47, Bunny. Thanks for sharing.

"I am very honored to be a guest in your country, and I loudly condemn the crimes that have been committed by the U.S. government in the name of the American people against your country."

What a traitor!

138 posted on 03/09/2002 12:32:10 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Snow Bunny
bttt
139 posted on 03/09/2002 12:49:35 PM PST by Deadeye Division
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To: Zeno44
Time for talking is Past. Just get the rope.

AID AND COMFORT: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam

Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer

They've invited me to see "We Were Soldiers" with them a week from tonight. They'll be signing books then in Washington, DC and New York, and those dates will be at the above link.

Jane Fonda bought a ranch an hour south of here in Rowe/Pecos.

To "get away from it all"?

Yet, the authors of her treason indictment are "just a few clicks away".

Karma's a bitch.

140 posted on 03/09/2002 12:57:37 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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