[Traction]

Logic and moral high ground doesn't work when dealing with bureaucrats. All they know is the regulations passed down by higher ups. Black marks on civil service records are far more effective. This is a matter of using the nuances of the law, public record and publicity to keep them inline. Politics boil down to influence and money. Letter writing and having the time to be at public hearings count far more. Such arguments that may be posed in the book my help at the hearings but if they (the bureaucrats) want to do something, they'll do it unless there is a consequence that will hurt their careers. You have to put them on notice that they are being watched and then they'll be more cooperative. It takes personal time, commitment and a lot of other like minded citizens to make it happen which is rare in todays hectic world.

[Carry_Okie]

So you know everything already? Yeah right. You're up against more than you think. Ask Doug Leisz.

[Carry_Okie]

The RICOnuts have a name for guys like you: "Willing Sellers" They'll pick off the members of your organization with regulations, one at a time. They'll keep coming until your budget runs dry. They don't care if it takes decades.

Have fun! I prefer to privatize the whole thing.