All I ask for is the truth.
Not everything is a conspiracy. I've followed this story and haven't heard a thing that would make me think the parents played a role in this.
These people don't act like the Yates. They act like people who have been through the emotional ringer and might deserve an inch or two of slack.
The ungrounded venom in some of these posts is the kind of kneejerk blind emotional reaction I expect from the left. Maybe some of you should head over to Democatic Underground.
I for one do not condemn them. I do however question their commitment to the child.
For instance, If I were to come strolling in from a night out, among the first things I would do would be to check in on the children. Regardless of who was charged with watching them, I would check to see if all was well and the kids were sleeping. Why did no one do this until 9:30 the next morning? Was mom a little too horny to get rolling with whomever she dragged in from the bar to stop and check on the kids? Makes me wonder.
Sure, and that's what Bill Clinton's defenders kept insisting.
What we should be condemning is their actions and no one can tell me that their swinging lifestyle didn't contribute to this. Parents who are so concerned with themselves and their own lust's fulfillment, that they don't even go and check on their children when their reported orgy was over and they found the security system breached, are parents who have some real culpability.
May this be a wakeup call to anyone else who thinks they can put parts of their lives into separate boxes and not have all affected. I'd add that their 'prayers' and their church attendance after this is particularly nauseating. Possibly another part of the public relations firm's strategy.
Yes...and it's worthy to note that it's obvious the detectives didn't give anything to the parents but kindness..per their own words.
The "weakness" is a couple of parents (outside the house itself, apparently locked in the garage for illicit and unusual activities) leaving a child unattended and ignoring, not once that night but TWICE (from their own statements), the alarm system of their home. Exploited "weakness"? Give me a break. How did he gain access? How did he know where she slept--look at your neighbor's homes. Unless you've been there, you likely haven't a clue, despite similar or identical floor plans, who sleeps where excluding (likely) the master suite. Their behavior CREATED his opportunity. If they'd been in the home itself, sleeping as they claimed, would have have dared to snatch her? If they'd paid attention to their alarm system, what then? These are NOT blameless "victims". Danielle is a victim of their incompetence as parents, as protectors ever bit as much as a victim of her murder.
I am sorry but I really dont feel good about condemning the parents at this point. We all have skeletons in our closets. That does not make us bad parents.
These are no 'mere' skeletons. A skeleton in the closet is hiding a past affair, not creating opportunities for your children to be abducted or killed. The condemnation is not about sex, this is about life-threateningly bad parenting.
Do you feel the same way about parents who 'forget' their children in the car for hours to gab on the telephone only for the child to die of heat stroke?
With Mark Klass and John Walsh on the families side I just dont understand some attacking the parents in such a slanderous manner.
Victim advocates both, Klass (btw, KFMB reported his foundation stands to benefit financially from the Van Dam search fund) and Walsh are siding with parents who share their experiences of having outlived a child. Neither is likely able to see this "objectively", instead both look at this through his own grief. I don't recall the Walsh case clearly, but I understand the Klass case was different in that Polly was spirited away through an adjacent sliding glass door and into the woods behind her home. No ignored alarms, no absenteeism for "adult" play.
It was downright offensive for the Van Dams to deceitfully suggest they were representative of every parent. Child abduction can happen to anyone, but this case isn't usual and they're certainly not lilly white and blameless for what happened. I'd like to see them investigated (by law enforcement and/or child protective services) as perhaps their two boys should be moved to a safer environment. I don't believe in this false idea of, "Leave them alone, haven't they suffered enough in losing Danielle."
AND THAT alisa, is what the plea bargaining is all about. A ring of "lifestyle" perverts in San Diego, whose operations behind the closed gate communities is now strongly suspected to involve underage children. It's gonna get messy. The neighbor might have moved the body AFTER the kid died.. "little blood found in his camper" says something. If there was only trace blood in the camper, she was NOT killed there. I STRONGLY suspect the girl died at home, at the hands of non-strangers, in a sex cult ritual... and that westerfield was the participant who got rid of the body.
We have not heard a cause of death yet... I suspect it may NOT be as simple as "westerfield" did it. I think it is mom and dad, and their 'party' friends. We shall see.