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To: BJClinton
I'm all for maintenance of infrastructure and the military, but only as a segue to a return to Constitutional government.

Agreed. It's that segue part that I cast a wary eye upon, and quite honestly doubt. The only segue that I've seen over the course of my life is in a direction that is more and more distant from the Constitution. To think that that would all change, and, as a result of a catastrophe, the government would embrace the Constitution like a long lost child is a stretch of the imagination in my opinion.

So, all I've seen is that the Shadow Gov't has vaguely defined powers to keep things running. It would seem to me that W could eliminate a lot of suspicion just by clarifying what the powers this SG has are.

Agreement on this also. But, has he? No. Okay then, will he? He might, but only if there's a hue and cry from the masses? Who knows? To me, this is a pretty darn big deal, something that one would think would be addressed post haste. And today we find out that we've had a "shadow government" for a few months now. Or, like some say, it's not a "shadow government," it's just a big ol' preparedness plan. You say potato, yada yada yada.

Is Congress spread out or they all in DC?

I don't know. I'm going on the assumption that they feel DC might be at best crippled, at worst completely gone. Either way, I just can't see them ol' boys hangin' around to "firmly take hold of the reigns and get the wagon back on the path" from there, can you? They all got out of Dodge during the Anthrax scare. But that is just my assumption. I really don't know where they might be or go.

By the way, I didn't spell check this one either, I'll let you do it.

197 posted on 03/01/2002 2:41:18 PM PST by Hoosier Patriot
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To: Hoosier Patriot
-you are absolutely correct. Any past historical example of an "emergency" that can be sited will show a suspension of constitutional checks and balances, and a default to the executive branch with full and complete dictatorial powers.

There is no provision for anything other than orders and following them.

There might be a congressperson or robed wonder wandering around, but that they would be listened to is beyond dubious into laughable. They'll be told to sit down and shutup. Pick a disaster or emergency that is historically available for review and anyone can see it for themselves.

The federal governments plan for a BIG emergency is exactly the same as for a MEDIUM emergency like we have been under for years now, and that is rule by the executive branch, refined under fema, renamed the patriot act, ongoing for years under an "emergency powers decree", that "allows" such niceties as one single human being ordering the nation to war, and everything under that..

They OWN you 100% right now, so to think they will own you less is silly. Anything you own is subject to confiscation. Your very person is subject to confiscation. These are the "laws" and can be looked up and referenced, I'd bet a dime to a dollar raising freeperthon donut they have been posted here dozens of times already, mostly to be forgotten, or een worse, trivilaised or denied that they exist..

The congressional and judicial branches currently are no more than a public facade for the legitimacy of the stealth coup that has taken over the united states. It's window dressing to keep people all serious about 'elections" and whatnot, like they are willing to actually let you "rule" yourselves should you choose to again now that you don't. They are just spelling it out in little words now so that people can start coming to grips with the reality of it. They have to do it in stages, and in different manners to inform the different levels of the public and their various awarness levels out there, this is just another stage.. They have little need nor less inclination to keep wasting their time for much longer on maintaining the illusion that we have a representative republic.

207 posted on 03/01/2002 5:10:26 PM PST by zog
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