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To: jlogajan
What we have is contemporaneous biological evidence, and layers and layers of fossil evidence. None of which agrees with the silly MYTHICAL stories in the Bible.

Silly? What is more silly than to believe something came from absolutely nothing? The materials that chemically evolved to create the first living creature with a reproductive system, where did these come from?

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. I don't know any who suggest that faith is anything more than faith. According to that faith, we believe that God created all that was, is, and will ever be. But where do those who believe in evolution get off passing along their theory as empirical fact?

Once you believe that a theory is the truth, the game is over. You can either prove it, or you can't.

Lastly, with the amount of dogma that evolutionists spew, evolution really does qualify as a religion. If it weren't none would be so passionate about honoring a theory as fact. The circular reasoning evolutionists use is powerful enough to create the centrifugal force needed with which to uphold the theory. God is 'A' and evolution is 'B.' 'B' is not totally confident in itself, but 'B' is confident enough to state that the existence of 'A' is not real. Post hoc ergo propter hoc anyone? The theory is this, therefore because of this God doesn't exist.

Round and around and around and around. . .

Evolution can't even pass a simple logic test.

21 posted on 02/28/2002 7:17:46 PM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
The materials that chemically evolved to create the first living creature with a reproductive system, where did these come from?

Where did God come from?

Fossils exist. Does God? Where's your proof? I can show you fossils. I have several 350 million year old fossils sitting on my table downstairs.

22 posted on 02/28/2002 7:20:05 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: rdb3
But where do those who believe in evolution get off passing along their theory as empirical fact?

Oh, it's just that we haven't had time to stop beating our wives lately.

I think you will find that most knowledgeable evolutionists "pass along" theory as theory and fact as fact. The distinction is actually important to us, as the very purpose of a scientific theory is to explain facts, and the role of facts is to test theories. We are therefore eager to point out the large arrays of facts (patterns of both genetic and morphological similarities, patterns of biogeographical distribution, the temporal ordering and sequential appearances and disappearances of fossil organisms in the geological column, observations of in situ speciation and evidence of historically recent speciation events, etc, etc) that are non-gratuitously explained only on the assumption of common descent. We are also happy to point out that evolution is incompatible with many otherwise plausible facts (29 Evidences for Macroevolution provides surveys of both facts uniquely explained by evolution, and potentional falsifications) and that, like other genuinely scientific theories, it is thereby vulnerable to many possible falsifications, but has withstood these tests.

Finally, we evolutionists tend to find it is creationists who have faulty, simplistic, incoherent or (quite often) pathological misunderstandings of the relationship between theories and facts.

104 posted on 02/28/2002 11:24:25 PM PST by Stultis
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To: rdb3
Silly? What is more silly than to believe something came from absolutely nothing? The materials that chemically evolved to create the first living creature with a reproductive system, where did these come from?

You would like to think that science claims "something came from absolutely nothing." But science says that every effect has a cause.

Actually, everything, absolutely everything on earth, rocks, leaves, living animals, all came from hydrogen. That gold filling you might have in your mouth was not made by any known natural process on earth. It started out as hydrogen, compressed by the forces of a sun. Before it got to earth it was expelled by an exploding sun, then eventually became part of the earth.

Our earth, our solar system, all the solar systems in the universe were made from hydrogen. All that is, is made from hydrogen that was forged by the four dimentional forces: Gravity, the Strong Force, the Weak Force and Electromagnetism. And life too, came from hydrogen.

111 posted on 02/28/2002 11:51:33 PM PST by powderhorn
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To: rdb3
God Evolution is 'A' and evolution God is 'B.' 'B' is not totally confident in itself, but 'B' is confident enough to state that the existence of 'A' is not real. Post hoc ergo propter hoc anyone? The theory is this, therefore because of this God evolution doesn't exist.
227 posted on 03/01/2002 6:13:26 PM PST by mn12
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