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BREAKING NOW: Detectives Arrive at Danielle Van Dam Residence for 4:00 P.M. Announcement.
KOGO News Radio 600 ^ | February 28, 2002 | KOGO

Posted on 02/28/2002 2:54:47 PM PST by FresnoDA

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To: 4ourprogeny

"It is her," said a detective close to the investigation. "It's female, a young girl, the same size as Danielle. The clothing looks like hers, and the body appears to have been out there three to four weeks, which is how long she's been missing

"There's nobody like that missing in the county in that time frame that fits that description." UNION-TRIBUNE

 

Matthew 18:6 - But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


161 posted on 02/28/2002 9:07:21 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Sorry, for a minute I was feeling PC. Your statement inferred that blue collar neighborhoods were more unsafe. I'm better now.
162 posted on 02/28/2002 9:07:30 PM PST by demsux
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To: FresnoDA
Still at it?
163 posted on 02/28/2002 9:09:13 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Girl's Parents

Danielle van Dam
Victim of "Alternative Lifestyles?"
by Chris Weinkopf
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 13, 2002

MAYBE, JUST MAYBE it was a total stranger who abducted seven-year-old Danielle van Dam from her San Diego home almost two weeks ago. Some thug could have picked her parents’ house at random and snuck in during the middle of the night, evading detection despite the home-security system. Somehow, the intruder could have found his way up to Danielle’s bedroom and removed her against her will—again, without being noticed.

Then again, maybe not.

The practical realities and crime statistics—less than 1 percent of the 800,000 children reported missing in the U.S. last year were abducted by someone unconnected to the family—suggest otherwise. Yet to judge by the initial coverage of Danielle’s disappearance on national TV, one would think her kidnapping had to be the exception to the rule.

The story, as first told on The Today Show, Good Morning America, The Early Show, Larry King Live, and America's Most Wanted, mirrored the account of Danielle’s parents, Brenda and Damon: Brenda was out partying that Friday night with friends at a San Diego nightspot. Damon put the kids to bed around 10. Brenda and her pals showed up around 2:30 and joined Damon for some pizza. The friends then left, and Brenda and Damon went to bed without first checking in on their daughter. They didn’t discover that she was missing until 9 a.m. Saturday morning.

As usual, the story behind the story has been available mostly outside the establishment media—on the Internet and talk radio.

Last Friday, San Diego talk-show host Rick Roberts presented his listeners with an alternative scenario for what might have happened. According to his "reliable" source "high in law enforcement," the van Dams are "swingers," and not in the dancing sense. They engage in "lots of wife-swapping," and reportedly did so in their garage the night Danielle disappeared. According to rumors circulating like mad on local talk shows and Internet bulletin boards, the van Dams lock their garage from the inside during their swingers’ parties to make sure Danielle and her two brothers don’t stumble in on the festivities.

That would explain why the van Dams might have failed to notice an intruder breaking into their home and walking off with their child. It also provides a motive for neighbor David Westerfield, the only suspect thus far identified by San Diego police. According to the rumors—which are, it should be noted, only that—Westerfield was a frustrated, would-be swinger who wanted to attend the van Dams’ soirees, but was denied admission for lack of a partner.

There’s more to the Westerfield angle: He saw Mrs. van Dam at the bar earlier in the evening, where, he claims, they danced (which she denies). He also high-tailed it out of San Diego and into the desert the next morning, which was enough to make police suspicious. So far, they have searched his home, where they found child pornography, and seized two of his vehicles, but they haven’t sought his arrest.

It’s easy to speculate by connecting the dots: At the nightclub, Westerfield might have learned about the orgy planned later in the evening. Mindful that Danielle’s parents would be distracted, he could have used the opportunity to sneak into their home and take her, thereby satisfying his perverted sexual appetites and exacting revenge against the van Dams for not including him in theirs.

It’s just a theory, and it’s rooted purely in conjecture, but it’s also the best lead available so far, which raises a worthwhile question: Why have so many in the press, the national TV media in particular, been reluctant to pursue it?

Surely it’s not just that the stories are unsubstantiated. That, after all, never kept the media from investigating claims of Nicole Brown Simpson’s drug use, the basis of O.J. defenders’ absurd charge that drug lords were "the real killer."

For their part, the van Dams have yet to deny the innuendos categorically. Asked about the alleged swinging on a San Diego TV station, Mrs. van Dam replied that "rumors are rumors," and "they have absolutely nothing to do with this investigation." Newsweek, one of few national media outlets that’s questioned the van Dams’ telling of events, quotes their spokeswoman, Sara Fraunces, as issuing the classic non-denial denial: The van Dams "do not lead a perfect lifestyle," she said, but that’s immaterial to the matter at hand.

Fraunces no doubt chose her words carefully. In the last 35 years, the term "lifestyle" has become not only the code word for any sort of sexual deviance, but also the quick way to claim a certain immunity from inconvenient questioning about it. This is the same logic Bill Clinton and his defenders used to rationalize perjury and lying to the American public, because it was "just about sex." For Gary Condit, it justified denying his affair to Washington police. His lifestyle took precedence over their duty to find Chandra Levy, dead or alive.

Like the "right to privacy" (a term invoked almost exclusively in sexual matters), the "lifestyle" claim is an appeal to the sexual revolution and its promise of an uninhibited sex life free of all responsibilities and moral judgment. It supersedes even laws, justice, or, in the case of Danielle van Dam and others, human life. To many of the reporters covering the van Dam story, the couple’s right to privacy similarly transcends the need for a complete and thorough investigation of their daughter’s disappearance.

But the couple’s "personal life" is a legitimate subject of inquiry, and not just for investigators. With their appeals to the press and calls for volunteers to help look for Danielle, the van Dams have made the investigation into their daughter’s kidnapping a very public affair. Privacy concerns should keep neither police nor reporters from pursuing all viable leads—certainly not when there’s a chance Danielle may still be alive.

It may be, as Mrs. van Dam claims, that Danielle’s abduction has nothing to do with her parents’ sexual predilections, but at this point, there’s no way for the van Dams to know that for sure. If they are lying about that Friday night’s events, then their credibility on all matters must be called into doubt. And even if they are telling the truth about that night, but they hosted sex parties in their home on others, that could yield a long list of potential suspects—people with unhealthy sexual behaviors who know the lay of the house.

The fetishization of "privacy" shouldn’t keep the van Dams from being forthright, or preclude the press from doing its job. The life of a little girl is at stake.

165 posted on 02/28/2002 9:10:26 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: wirestripper
Yea, took a break at 5:00. Bright eyed an bushy tailed again. Time for every one to put their thinking caps on....FDA
166 posted on 02/28/2002 9:11:58 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
The only interesting thing that caught my eye was the fact that for some unknown reason they searched the area where the body was found twice. They found it on the second attempt after being ordered to do so by investigators. It sounds like they got intel from someone.
168 posted on 02/28/2002 9:16:46 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Registered
Swinging means trading sex partners/husband and wife swapping right? Is there proof or is that still a rumor? Granted, that is deviant..but so is having extra marital affairs, going to bars every weekend, drinking too much and smoking cigarettes..There are all kinds of deviant lifestyles.

Almost every kind of lifestyle carries with it a risk. There are three local families here whose single daughters were never found...but were victims of sexual predator. The violent sex offender was a painting contractor who worked for the apartment buildings of the victims. He had keys and access to the victims. SICK right? It hasn't been that many years ago when it was considered deviant for women to be alone on the street let alone live by themselves.....it was proper for them to have escorts. Just because adults trade partners doesn't mean the partners are pedophiles. This is kind of getting close to the argument that all homosexuals are pedophiles. Mind you, I'm NOT defending the deviant lifestyle that people are claiming the parents lived.

I've not heard the interview that you speak of maybe? I've seen some of them on fox news...I'm willing to listen to it. Can you tell me the gist of it?

169 posted on 02/28/2002 9:17:03 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: RepubMommy
I'm not sure exactly what some FReeper posted - but I think he said that the couple were advised by their attorney to keep their mouths shut. But I am not sure if that is exactly what I read, because I don't remember hearing an attorney's name mentioned anywhere - just the pro bono PR outfit.

I have to admit something though. I did kind of get a bit of a startle when I heard the mother giving a press statement before the poor little girl's body was found. Her voice inflection just didn't sound right. It made me wonder if the police department has one of those voice/body language experts bisecting her every word/action.

170 posted on 02/28/2002 9:17:54 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: demsux
Sorry about that... Ya won't find me ''stereotyping''.. :)
172 posted on 02/28/2002 9:19:41 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
I am positive that rick roberts use to be a local dj..maybe part time here. Isn't he one of those extremist whacko dj's? We've had so many here I can't keep track of who is who. Regardless, I think that is sick. If it comes out in court that the parents are responsible for the sick violent pedophile to enter their house so be it. I know for a fact that parents all over the u.s. do their best to hide their bedroom activities from their children..from turning the tv on loud to turning the radio up so the kids ''can't hear them''. THAT is nothing new. Please see my post to registered...rather than repeat some of it here..
173 posted on 02/28/2002 9:24:25 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
oh and gasp, lock their bedroom doors so the little kiddos won't enter the bedroom ..
174 posted on 02/28/2002 9:25:19 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
I don't know how to post a picture, but that one you linked me to...where the VD's are walking out of their house...she looks more worried for herself and he looks like the fox leaving the henhouse
175 posted on 02/28/2002 9:28:13 PM PST by demsux
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
While we may never agree on ''who is to blame'' or hold responsible..I know we all pray that we never have to suffer such a fate..

G'nite..

176 posted on 02/28/2002 9:30:14 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Swiging is a old term, and the definition is correct. I have seen the term used but that doesnot mean that they were actually swinging. There is one report that said the accused perp was trying to get into the group. Apparently there definately was a party and someone also mentioned marijuana.

This is interesting to me because the guy they arrested did not have a girl. The wife was at the social club with a few female friends. (according to reports) The wife then came home in the wee hours with some friends. (probably still female)

The story then says that they talked for a while and then the VDs went to bed.

Question? Was the perp invited over? (extra girls remember) It is reported that he was at the social club with mrs. VD. (she denies) It would follow that he met the girl friends. Was a invite made at that time? Hmmmmmm.......

177 posted on 02/28/2002 9:33:49 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
12:30 here, I'm gonna go check on both of my kids (especially my daughter, who has sleepwalked (sp?} so I put special locks on the door), give a kiss and hug, make sure all the doors are locked and go to bed...
178 posted on 02/28/2002 9:33:51 PM PST by demsux
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To: demsux
Better smack those husbands who fall asleep after ''doing their husbandly duty'' with their wives. MUST the women DO EVERYTHING?
179 posted on 02/28/2002 9:36:00 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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