[Ward Smythe]

...but if you think you saved yourself you can not hear or understand that

Mom, to assert that any of us has said that we saved ourselves is misrepresenting our position and clearly not a statement of the Wesleyan-Arminian position.

With your Wesleyan background, you know that is true.

Can you ping me back to where you addressed Shadow's question? Thanks.

[RnMomof7]

I asked a simple question that neithor of you seem to have an answer for" How were you brought to repentance?"

Do the words" by the grace of God" stick in your throats?

I have answered Shadows question several times, by asking how he was brought to repentance..because it is the same thing that saves a child