A late bump to Jerry so he can stay with the discussion..Hey X don't you have to write a sermon......we could help you..What say you OP..got any reform topics ??*grin*
X could you give me scripitual references for Prevenient Grace? ( I think reform folks would call this common grace) and if you have an opportunity I had asked for scripture references from Wesleyan doctrine that original sin is not "activated" untill the child sins
Now to this post..Your dismissal of total depravity on the basis of grace does not really address the issue though..What is mans spirital condition as he enters the world?