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To: azhenfud
Well, why would you want to go to Ward, who doesn't know Calvinism, for information about Calvinism.

In the NT, we are told that it is the Lord's will that all come to repentance (2 Pet. Ch. 3 V. 9). I take the words "not willing" to mean the Lord's will. Does this indicate His will is a failure? Certainly not. Why? Because the freedom to choose seems to play a huge part in the consequences.

Who are the us in that verse. Who is the Lord talking about? BTW, according to your reading, does the will of man supercede that of God?

70 posted on 02/26/2002 2:00:06 PM PST by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody; azhenfud
Well, why would you want to go to Ward, who doesn't know Calvinism, for information about Calvinism.

Perhaps Woody because an honest search for the truth will lead us to it...

azhenfud - Calvin confused a lot of people. You'll meet many of them here.

77 posted on 02/26/2002 3:36:09 PM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: CCWoody
"Who are the us in that verse. Who is the Lord talking about? BTW, according to your reading, does the will of man supercede that of God?"

Good question. The children of God (like us) who are yet making mistakes, right? I ask you - who is Peter referring to in the same passage by the usage of "any" and "all" when he says: "...,not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." Please clarify this for me if you would...
Thanks,
Az

112 posted on 02/26/2002 6:59:29 PM PST by azhenfud
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