[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

You say you have demonstrated that "this is not so" and then you say that your little small-g god decided before the foundation of the world that your little group would be saved and everyone else damned to Hell and that those that are so damned can't accept the offer of salvation in Christ. But then realizing that there is no reason to believe that a god so arbitrary and brutal would have any difficulty being just as brutal to babies and little children -- since he sentenced them -- in your little view -- to Hell with the others who also had no choice. Thankfully, the God of the Bible is a Great God. Much bigger -- and thankfully -- much more loving than yours. He is a Father who sent His Son to die for ALL men that as many as believed in Him would be saved. No arbitrariness, no secret little club with membership closed before the foundation of the world. Just the true offer of Life Everlasting and Life Abundant if we "believe in Jesus Christ" (Paul's words to the Phillipian jailer, not mine). And that, my friend, is no 'Arminian lie.' That's Good News.

But unborn infants cannot "choose to believe" in Jesus. Thus the requisite condition for Arminian "salvation", they cannot fulfill.

So the Arminian's god just damned all who die in infancy.

Oops.

Oh, well, you gotta break a few eggs, I guess.....

[Jerry_M]

Well, I can guess that wc is going to tell you in response: "God judges those who don't hear the Gospel by a different standard". And to imagine that he got this silly idea out of his reading of Romans One.

[winstonchurchill]

But unborn infants cannot "choose to believe" in Jesus. Thus the requisite condition for Arminian "salvation", they cannot fulfill. So the Arminian's god just damned all who die in infancy.

Nope, but nice try. Because the Bible teaches that God respects our will and neither damns nor rewards those who do not, through the grace of His Son, accept and believe in His Son, we believe He covers and protects the little ones until they make that decision of the will.

And, no, no man knows the hour or the day, but the problem with the Calvinist construct is that if God does not regard our choice of Christ (because He has -- according to that flawed construct -- already individually predestined the majority to Hell without any opportunity for salvation, then why would it trouble Him that a few little ones would go to Hell -- since their adult decision for Christ would be meaningless in any event?

How much farther from the Bible and the Love of Christ could that foolish construct be?