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To: ccwoody,
Woody, reference your post #351

Here comes the "I".

T - - Total Depravity means that Natural Man is totally sinful and does not ever WANT in his own spirit to know Christ.

U - - Unconditional Election means that God has elected for His own glory, in accordance with His own will and without regard for the merit of those elected, some for salvation and some to be left in their sins.

L - - Limited Atonement means that Christ died specifically and only for the sins of those who would ever truly believe in Him.

I - - Irresistible Grace means that the elect are incapable of resisting the inward call to repentance and salvation by the Holy Spirit..

404 posted on 02/28/2002 5:41:27 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Let me just say this:

I disagree with your presentation of "U" (It left out a very important component of my 302).

I disagree with your presentation of "L".

I disagree with your presentation of "I"

(And, I will disagree with your presentation of "P")

This is where we stand unless and until you state, succinctly, your disagreement with "T". You have no concurrence from me that you are on the right track.

406 posted on 02/28/2002 5:45:11 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: xzins; Ward Smythe
One of the "other things" I will pursue while waiting for your objections to our "T":

You have yet to address my Post Seventy-Five.

Is there a reason why you are ducking it? Do you see the "logical" difficulty it poses for you?

409 posted on 02/28/2002 5:55:30 AM PST by Jerry_M
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