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To: Jerry_M
Only those who believe will be saved.

Of course. I wholeheartedly agree with you on this.

But Jesus' death was "for the sins of the whole world." The atonement was sufficient to the point that even if EVERYONE believed the blood would cover all.

The gospel is REALLY offered to all. It isn't just "pretending" in its offer. That would make God duplicitous.

155 posted on 02/27/2002 7:11:29 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
"Sufficient for all, efficacious only for the elect"

This is the classic Calvinist position on Limited Atonement. As I have tried to point out, this is also true for the Arminian. What good does it do a man that the blood of Christ is sufficient to cleanse him from sin if that blood does not cleanse him from sin?

(Note, I am answering the same on both threads, I don't have the time to see which one this really belongs to.)

157 posted on 02/27/2002 7:24:29 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: xzins; Jerry_M
The gospel is REALLY offered to all.

For 1500 years after the death of Christ the American Natives, my blood ancestors from my grandmother, never ever even had the chance to hear this good news. In what sense was the gospel REALLY offered to them?

164 posted on 02/27/2002 8:04:48 AM PST by CCWoody
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