[White Mountain]

Your #1052: That is funny, because when I stated that man could do relative good one of the Calvinist brethren stated that everything unregenerate man did was a sin and evil. I hope he caught your post.

OPie and Jerry need to come to agreement among themselves. See Jerry's #302. Jerry's view of Totally Depraved has quite consistently been more like wholly or utterly depraved, indistinguishable (thus far) from demonic.

[fortheDeclaration]

"Unconditional Election: BEFORE CREATION GOD HAS ELECTED FOR HIS OWN REASONS SOME FOR BELIEVING UNTO GLORY AND SOME FOR DAMNATION." Nope. I would suggest: God has elected, in accordance with His own will, and without regard for the merit of those elected (due to the fact that they have none, they are "Totally Depraved"), some for salvation. The rest He has left in their sins. In all cases, He is glorified.

Well, accept for the idea of reprobation ( 'just'leaving the unbeliever in his sin instead of a double predestination, which the effect is the same) I do not see any real difference between the two statements!

This is just pure double-talk!