[RnMomof7]

xzins has spent DAYS attempting to define the TULIP concept in a valid, and fair attempt to define exactly what you DO believe. He has repeatedly asked for every Calvinist on this thread to offer edits, which he has offered to make until the definitions meet your satisfaction.

For days the Calvinists on this tread have tried to discuss the T in the tulip..in response we get multi colored large print screaming posts ignoring our request.

I have read that only the powerless raise their voice..I have thought of that several times as the giant multicolored posts showed up to grab the attention of the lurkers..

The difference is we do not have to yell

[Ward Smythe]

I have read that only the powerless raise their voice..

Shout for joy to the Lord , all the earth.
- Psalm 100:1

Maybe you need to read more.