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To: Jean Chauvin
"These passages do indeed declare God's omnipotence, foreknowledge, etc., but they do not say that God creates evil or predetermines all our choices."

I am the Lord, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil.....

.....Right there in black and white, in the King's English!

You actually believe this means God is some skitzo who creates moral evil...and then turns around and judges this same "evil" and fries people in Hell for it?
What a warped and monstrous characterization of our Holy and gracious God.

This passage is NOT saying that God is the ultmate creator of "moral evil" ( which would make Him a hypocrite and phoney in the rest of the Bible for condemning it)...BUT rather it is refering to God bringing disaster (as opposed to peace) in response to the sins of man.

It's amazing how Calvinists can distort scripture to paint a picture of an evil and sadistic God. How sad!

1,034 posted on 03/01/2002 6:55:56 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Jorge,

If you would have been following the past two threads, you would have understood that my post had all to do with sarcasm.

KJVOnlyists deny one the use of any other translation than the Only English Bible God Ever Wrote. They are not even allowed to use the existing copies in the original greek/hebrew languages (why, if God wrote the KJV, would we need to go back to such manuscripts, afterall, we are not experts in those languages anyway!). I was just poking a bit of fun at those who hold such a silly view. That this passage claims God created evil would cause me to check this passage in other translations to see that 'evil' probably isn't the best word for todays english reading people. Other translations use 'disaster', 'calamity' or even 'bad times'. So, yes, I knew that the verse was telling us that God creates disaster, and not evil. If you notice, FTD has turned even this meaning on its ear as he tried to pontificate on what he thought the word meant as he brought in new ideas not even remotely found in the passage.

In other words, I was just having a little fun. ^grin^

Jean

1,084 posted on 03/02/2002 10:52:33 AM PST by Jean Chauvin
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