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To: ShadowAce, forthedeclaration, rnmomof7, jerrym, orthodox presbyterian
I suspect xzins is viscerally opposed to the doctrine that infants enter the world speaking lies. Just read his posts on the subject.

It's a "triumph" psalm that speaks of the conflict between the wicked and the godly. It says that the godly are gonna wash their feet in the blood of the wicked....guess we're gonna take that one literally, right?

It says that these wicked folks begin going astray as soon as they're born. Well, it also says that they're like poisonous young snakes and that God should kill them while they're young.

Then they'll go to heaven, no doubt. Killing babies for Jesus.

Actually, the point of the psalm is that Judgement will eventually fall on those evil ones who seem to glide by without anyone apparently keeping them in line.

1,012 posted on 03/01/2002 2:36:42 PM PST by xzins
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To: xzins, CCWoody, Jerry_M, the_doc, RnMomof7, Ward Smythe
I suspect xzins is viscerally opposed to the doctrine that infants enter the world speaking lies. Just read his posts on the subject. ~~ It's a "triumph" psalm that speaks of the conflict between the wicked and the godly. It says that the godly are gonna wash their feet in the blood of the wicked....guess we're gonna take that one literally, right?

If the Bible says it, I am prepared to believe it.

I believe what the Bible says....
.....No matter what.

But the passage you cite:

Actually speaks of "the righteous" as a singular individual. Now, it's possible that it is hereby speaking of "the righteous man" in general, i.e., any righteous redeemed man. But the singular usage suggests that it is speaking of The Righteous Man in particular, the Conquering Messiah who returns to earth for the purpose of destroying His enemies and throwing them into Hell. As such, it is probably cross-referential to the prophecy thereafter given in Isaiah 63:3-4, where Jesus declares the coming of His Day of Wrath, when he will slaughter all the enemies of the Father:

Since Vengeance belongs to the Lord, I tend to regard Psalm 58:10 as bespeaking the Wrath of the Lamb. Not "the righteous man" in general, but The Righteous Man in particular, shall be the One who will wrathfully wash His feet in the blood of the wicked, and spatter their blood upon His garments.

And according to Deuteronomy 32: 40-43, the Redeemed of the Lord are not to take vengeance themselves (Hebrews 10:30), but rather to rejoice when the Lord slaughters His enemies:

But does your "theology" allow this? Can you obey the Command of the Lord to rejoice when He makes His arrows drunk with the blood of the slain?

I rather doubt it.

Your "theology" does not allow you to read the Bible as it is written.
Gosh, you hate the Bible as it is written. Your "theology" compels you to re-word the Bible.

Because your "theology" is Anti-Biblical.

It says that these wicked folks begin going astray as soon as they're born. Well, it also says that they're like poisonous young snakes and that God should kill them while they're young.

Actually, it says,

"Cubs" do not have "great teeth". They do not have "great teeth" until they are grown into Young Lions, imitators of their father the Devil, who "as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Peter 5:8)

But the Elect have no cause to fear these young lions. Jesus of Nazareth intends to break their teeth (Psalm 58:6), trample them underfoot and splatter their blood upon His garments (Isaiah 63:3-4) and make His arrows drunk with their blood (Deuteronomy 32: 40-43). We, His People, simply rejoice; for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries.

Then they'll go to heaven, no doubt. Killing babies for Jesus.

No, the Psalmist says that Jesus is going to break their teeth as young lions, not as cubs. They will grow into years of accomplished Blasphemy before He, in His Wrath, tramples them underfoot and spatters their blood upon His garments.

After all, if His Father intended to Elect them unto Heaven as infants, He could call them home in infancy, if He saw fit.

But He has seen fit to permit the Reprobate to grow into "young lions" before He makes His arrows drunk with their blood.

Actually, the point of the psalm is that Judgement will eventually fall on those evil ones who seem to glide by without anyone apparently keeping them in line

Actually, the point of the Psalm is to believe what it says.

To a Calvinist, it is not really that hard to believe that God says what he means, and means what He says.

At least, that is the CALVINIST approach to Scripture.

1,035 posted on 03/01/2002 7:06:28 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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