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To: The Duke
This is what happens when the military tries to shortcut infrastructure costs and use civilian resources for training purposes.

HorseHillary! The civilians in this area have been working with the army ever since PathFinders from the newly-formed 82nd Abn Div ran training operations in that area in WW-2. I PERSONALLY know of one family in that area that has THREE generations who have worked with SF Training Group. Two of these generations went on to become SF soldiers themselves.

The word "unprofessional" comes to mind.

Speaking as one of the civilian resources they have used,I find the "unprofessional" comment incredibally insulting. My job as the guerilla chief had me working 20 hours a day,seven days a week for 19 days to try and make this exercise both challenging and educational. The same goes for EVERY other G-Chief out there,ALL of whom are former active duty SF soldiers themselves. The only exception to this is one retired USMC major from Force Recon who is a graduate of the program himself,and who worked as a liason between the Force Recon and SWC before he retired. Some of those guys are out there climbing the mountains and sleeping on the ground at damn near 70 years of age. People who were deployed on real missions all over the world during their own enlistments which date all the way back to the Korean War. One I know of was already a Master Sgt E-8 when I knew him on Okinawa in 1966. YOU figure out how much experience this man has to pass on,and the dedication it takes to go out there and do this job at his age! They ain't doing it for the money,either. When you figure the hours you work,you don't even make minimum wage. You hope on the best day of your life to be even half as professional as any one of these people.

29 posted on 02/24/2002 10:45:17 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Roger That!
37 posted on 02/24/2002 11:26:10 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: sneakypete
My comments by no means attack the character or sound decisions of seasoned professionals. Such seasoned professionals are frequently the first to recognize the legal and logistical quandries implicitly frought in such an endeavor and also fairly well scoff any lame attempt to justify this type of incident as a natural or happenstance consequence.

Doubt is placed on the credibility of any individual who attempts to justify or to imply no real consequence is to be taken.

Or as so eloquantly stated in WWII,...NUTS!

109 posted on 02/25/2002 6:44:58 PM PST by Cvengr
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