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To: JMJ333
Sometimes the need for standards in a community does indeed outweigh the rights of individuals.

Your statement is only true to the collectivist mentality. In a moral society, nothing, absolutely nothing, outweighs the rights of the individual.

I am against legalizing drugs and prostitution for this very reason. I don't want it to be legal to operate a crack house or a bunny ranch next door to my family--and there be nothing I can do about it.

There is no justification for you to do something about it, unless and until your rights are violated.

The behavior resulting from said activities are vices and attract the lowest of the low. There are no benefits, only detremetal effects.

No, the lowest of the low are those who are attracted to the socialist justification for their desire to dictate the thoughts and actions of their fellow man. The losers who succumb to self destructive vice are just the symptom of that socialist disease.

Not everything can be about "self."

You are very correct. It is not about "self", it is about individual rights.

183 posted on 02/24/2002 2:13:27 PM PST by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Jolly Rodgers
Your statement is only true to the collectivist mentality. In a moral society, nothing, absolutely nothing, outweighs the rights of the individual.

There is nothing communist or collectivist about having community standards that are based in concrete morality. I don't want a whore house operating next door to my family and there be nothing I can do about it. That type of enviornment attracts criminals. My neighbor's right to act like a deviant doesn't outweigh my right to decency. And since concrete truths exist, we as a society have a moral obligation to recognize and promote them.

There is no justification for you to do something about it, unless and until your rights are violated.

A deviant can wallow in the sewer and bring criminals and rif-raf around my family, but I can't do anything about it until one of them comes and assaults me? In the real world criminals and deviants act like what they are, and they shouldn't be given the opportunity to do it anywhere they choose--a thumbs up from society to do whatever wherever.

No, the lowest of the low are those who are attracted to the socialist justification for their desire to dictate the thoughts and actions of their fellow man. The losers who succumb to self destructive vice are just the symptom of that socialist disease.

I'm the lowest of the low because I wouldn't want prostitues and drug addicts around my family, and nothing I can do about it?

Social disease my foot. They have a will and they choose what they like. I'll not de-stigmatize their abhorrent behavior because of the faliability of human nature.

184 posted on 02/24/2002 2:41:08 PM PST by JMJ333
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