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To: Cloud William; schu
"Passing through Turkey as the Sultan's guest, a professor had his own carriage attached to the train, which stopped at a small station on the Asian side of the Sea of Marmara. The Turkish station master entered the carriage, sized him up and informed him that, regrettably, his carriage needed to be uncoupled from the train."Regulations, effendi," oiled the station master. "Though for a slight consideration, an exception can be made." He held out his hand for baksheesh.The station master was large, his palm immense and Vambery immediately hit it with his crutch. The giant, who could have torn Vambery in two, didn't even try to ward off the blow. "Effendi, I didn't know . . ." he whimpered as he retreated, "in your exalted case, of course, regulations don't apply."Vambery was travelling with a friend. "Didn't you see the size of that fellow?" he asked. "Weren't you afraid to hit him?" "Of course," replied Vambery. "But this is the Orient, I would have been far more afraid not to hit him."

This assessment of what is to be feared most, firmness or appeasement, is not only true for the Orient, but it is more of a rule of thumb when dealing with them.

417 posted on 02/21/2002 6:25:15 PM PST by HockeyPop
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To: HockeyPop,Cloud William
Well of course it depends on what your final objective is, and here it is to bring these heathens into modern times where they stop acting like barbarians. In order to accomplish that, their will needs to be broken, their religion, which is the basis of their culture, needs to be discredited. Perhaps then they can begin to rebuild in a fashion that respects other folks.

I used to beleive it could be done from within, I no longer think that. What will it take to accomplish breaking this will?

450 posted on 02/21/2002 6:45:46 PM PST by schu
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