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To: Tofa Swiftgoat
You said it precisely:We can all curse and shake our fists, but unfortunately our perfumed, white gloved Western culture is incapable of properly responding to the barbarians at its gates, except by instituting politically correct searches of little old ladies at airport checkpoints. Too far gone we are. too civilized, too naively persuaded of the noble nature of mankind and so on. Or maybe I'm all wrong.

No you are correct, unfortunately. The only way to stop terror is with horror but we'll allow the socialists in this country and elsewhere to tie our hands while all of our collective heads are cut off.

These people do not understand Western concepts like mercy, compassion, justice. They understand only one thing: brute, unrelenting force. Not that we care what they understand. We just need to wipe this blight from the face of the planet. If we don't, they will end Western civilization.

Against Nazis, we didn't say, "Oh, not ALL Nazis are bad." We have a cult of people (one billion of them) whose CORE BELIEF, core CREED, consists of their VOW to kill US. This is not optional on their part. They are COMPELLED to kill Christians, Jews, and to end Western Civilization. They have been working toward this for 1700 years. WE seem to be the first and only generation not to fully understand history in this respect.

The story of the 20th century was our fight against Nazis, Commies, and Japanese imperialist hegemony. The story of HISTORY is the clash of civilizations----US versus Mohammedans.

268 posted on 02/21/2002 4:45:01 PM PST by gg188
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To: gg188
Against Nazis, we didn't say, "Oh, not ALL Nazis are bad." We have a cult of people (one billion of them) whose CORE BELIEF, core CREED, consists of their VOW to kill US. This is not optional on their part. They are COMPELLED to kill Christians, Jews, and to end Western Civilization. They have been working toward this for 1700 years. WE seem to be the first and only generation not to fully understand history in this respect.

Well said.
296 posted on 02/21/2002 5:04:11 PM PST by Tofa Swiftgoat
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To: gg188
The story of the 20th century was our fight against Nazis, Commies, and Japanese imperialist hegemony. The story of HISTORY is the clash of civilizations----US versus Mohammedans.

You sure put that shot in the 10-ring. The events that detail our repeated clash with the Muslim world are rarely mentioned, even in most college history courses.

In October, 732, Charles Martel met Abd-er-Rahman outside of Tours and defeated and slew him in a battle (the Battle of Poitiers). This must remain one of the great events in the history of the world, as the outcome of the battle would determine whether Christian Civilization should continue or Islam prevail throughout Europe. Why, it's almost embarrassing to speak of such brutality in today's politically-correct world. Never mind the minor details that Western Civilization hung in the balance and prevailed because someone opened up the big can of whoop-ass.

In 1683, another nearly unheard-of battle took place. At the Seige of Vienna, the Polish warrior-king Jan III Sobieski led his army and joined the Austrian and German forces opposing the invading Turks. Again, Western Civilization was saved, and less than 100 years before a new country, "The United States of America" was born.

Early 20th century: General Pershing is said to have dealt harshly - but effectively - with the Islamic fanatics. He might've sewed 'em up in pigskins for burial, poured pig guts over them, dipped execution bullets in pig fat, all those nasty things. The stories are not exactly confirmed, and it may well be that Pershing himself was not directing these activities. It's plain, though, that *someone* figured out what made those savages cry for their mommas.

We better figure out how to meet this challenge once again and settle this problem permanently.

466 posted on 02/21/2002 7:11:46 PM PST by Cloud William
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