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Say the 'N' word, go to jail: Man sentenced for uttering slur
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, February 20, 2002 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 02/19/2002 11:10:18 PM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: JohnHuang2
I've said for years, the worst thing you can be called in America is a racist. It's a word that's thrown around way to much and a copout for those who don't want to take responsibility for their actions. BTW, I didn't know they had blacks in Idaho, or should I say "Ida-HO?
41 posted on 02/20/2002 4:24:53 AM PST by Far Right Of Left
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To: JohnHuang2
the legal system is broken;
42 posted on 02/20/2002 7:23:41 AM PST by Red Jones
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To: JohnHuang2
At least he wasn't being niggardly.
43 posted on 02/20/2002 7:27:44 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: JohnHuang2
I know that I'm going against conventional wisdom here, but it seems to me that the guy was convicted of assault, which he did commit.

I agree that the hate crimes thing is crap, but it was thrown out and he was convicted of the assault charge -- presumably for saying that he was going to "kick his butt".

Also, I'd like to hear the referee's side of the story. As a high-school and college basketball referee I can tell you that the fan's side of the story never corresponds to the official's story, nor to what really happened. There is another side of the story that we are not hearing about.

44 posted on 02/20/2002 2:34:04 PM PST by TexRef
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To: sneakypete
Yep...the sooner they learn it, the faster they can get on with their lives as second-class citizens.
45 posted on 02/20/2002 2:41:27 PM PST by beowolf
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To: JohnHuang2
"'Hate words' according to the Idaho legislature," Rae told WorldNetDaily, "are n-----, spook, gook, dike, fag, chink, spic – there's not one of them in there relating to white people. There ain't 'cracker' or 'honkey..."

...or honk-ass, or white-boy, or gringo, or goy, or schickza, ...

And yet when the Left goes on one of its usual racism witch hunts they come after middle-America whites ONLY. It would be comical if it weren't so real.

46 posted on 02/20/2002 3:23:26 PM PST by freepy smurf
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To: TexRef
I agree that the hate crimes thing is crap, but it was thrown out and he was convicted of the assault charge -- presumably for saying that he was going to "kick his butt"..

He was originally charged with a hate crime which resulted in him being ostracized by the community, loss of business, loss of job and loss of home. Seems a lot of damage was done to these people's lives. Manley could have asked the lady not to take the pictures. It was not necessary to muscle her.

I'm not a lawyer, but I thought that just because someone threatens to beat you up doesn't necessarily add up to assult. You have to be physically capable of it. this Manley guy sounds like he's pretty big.

47 posted on 02/20/2002 4:15:51 PM PST by virgil
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He was originally charged with a hate crime which resulted in him being ostracized by the community, loss of business, loss of job and loss of home. Seems a lot of damage was done to these people's lives.

Well, that is a good point.

Manley could have asked the lady not to take the pictures. It was not necessary to muscle her.

Well, I don't take their side of the story as verbatim. The Idaho Athletic Association placed the high school on a year's probation and the local school board banned the couple for life.

Seems to me that there might be a little more to the story.

I'm not a lawyer, but I thought that just because someone threatens to beat you up doesn't necessarily add up to assult. You have to be physically capable of it. this Manley guy sounds like he's pretty big.

I don't know... Most high school football referees (white hats, that is) are old. Old and overweight often too.

Personally, I don't think that all the wife was doing was taking pictures... Call it a gut instinct.

Officials take all sorts of crap from people at every game — I just don't think that one would snap just because someone was taking a photo.

48 posted on 02/20/2002 8:32:39 PM PST by TexRef
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To: TexRef
bump
49 posted on 02/20/2002 8:51:04 PM PST by doglot
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To: TexRef
I think Manly actually admitted, in court, under oath, to assaulting Kimberly Rae. Whereas her husband was convicted of assault and ostracized because he yelled the *now illegal to be uttered or written by white people* N-word at someone other than Manly, the supposed victim of the assault. Lonney Rae was dragged away from the scene of the admitted crime and criminal, it's reasonable for him to be upset, being upset is not an assualt.

This isn't the first time something like this has happened, it won't be the last.

51 posted on 03/03/2002 5:12:01 PM PST by no-s
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To: Voter#537
4. Play Barry Manilow(sp?) & John Denver louder.
52 posted on 03/03/2002 5:27:01 PM PST by doubtfullyhopefull
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To: TexRef
First of all, from what I am reading, she was not just a fan - she is a freelance reporter. She was taking pictures of the event because she was covering the story. I am not familiar with Idaho law, but I doubt it's legal to use force to take a camera away from a reporter just because you don't want your picture taken.

Also, (once again - from what I've read) the ref supposedly admitted in court that he attempted to wrestle the camera away from her. If what I have read is accurate, the ref should have been charged with assault and possibly even attempted robbery.

It is hard to know exactly what happened without actually being there. We all know how reliable journalists are. There were witnesses present, I believe, but I have not found any record of the testimonies presented in court for this case.

Here is a link to a related article posted here last August:

Racist or Scapegoat? Idaho Man Charged With Hate Crime for Using Racial Slur in Defense of Wife

53 posted on 03/26/2002 2:20:10 PM PST by occam's chainsaw
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