[PatrickHenry]

A bit of the famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

01: Site that debunks virtually all of creationism's fallacies. Excellent resource.
02: Creation "Science" Debunked.
03: Creationi sm and Pseudo Science. Familiar cartoon then lots of links.
04: The SKEPTIC annotated bibliography. Amazingly great meta-site!
05: The Evidence for Human Evolution. For the "no evidence" crowd.
06: Massi ve mega-site with thousands of links on evolution, creationism, young earth, etc..
07: Another amazing site full of links debunking creationism.
08: Creationism and Pseudo Science. Great cartoon!
09: Glenn R. Morton's site about creationism's fallacies. Another jennyp contribution.
11: Is Evolution Science?. Successful PREDICTIONS of evolution (Moonman62).
12: Five Major Misconceptions about Evolution. On point and well-written.
13: Frequently Asked But Never Answered Questions. A creationist nightmare!
14: DARWIN, FULL TEXT OF HIS WRITINGS. The original ee-voe-lou-shunist.

The foregoing was just a tiny sample. So that everyone will have access to the accumulated "Creationism vs. Evolution" threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review: The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 15].

[PatrickHenry]

Ping.

[Mike K]

I knew it, dang white men just wanna' own everything! [/sarcasm]

[VadeRetro]

Now you're going to get it from the "My granfather wasn't no monkey" bunch.

[Jonathon Spectre]

Hmm, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say something controversial that far too many knee-jerk jerk-offs will simply dismiss as "racist". However, I have to say it.

Many years ago, humankind began in Africa. These earliest humans spread out in all directions, and some of them ended up in Europe. Over the course of a few thousand years, these European versions of the human changed, and became substantially different than any other humans. They built ships, sailed the seas, discovered fundamental truths about the universe they lived in, created the discipline of science that has so enriched and improved all our lives. And one day, thousands of years later, they returned to Africa.

What did they find there? A culture in many ways as advanced as their own, as would be discovered in the Far East? A "great" religion, as would be the case with the Mohammedans of the Middle East? No. They discovered the inhabitants still living in primitive barbarism, jumping up and down and eating each other. Of COURSE Europe was where evolution flowered. How anyone can look at human history and not immediately and instinctively know this is beyond me.

Please, feel free to discuss. :) I'll look back in on this thread tonight and see how many hysterical denunciations I manage to attract. Oh, and by the way, I'm NOT a racist. I don't care what color you are, what country you come from, or what fairy tale you believe in so long as you don't want to use the power of the state to make me live like you do. That's why I like FREE Republic so much.

[AndrewC]

re-writing the book on the history of great apes and humans, arguing that most of their evolutionary development took place in Eurasia, not Africa.
Begun says that the great apes flourished in Eurasia and that their lineage leading to the African apes and humans - Dryopithecus - migrated south from Europe or Western Asia into Africa, where populations diverged into the lines leading towards great apes, gorillas and chimps (chimpanzees and bonobos). One of those lines eventually evolved into the ancestors of humans about six million years ago.

I do not see how the first appearance allows the conclusion expressed in the first statement above. I also do not see how great apes can flourish before their lineage migrates and diverges into lines leading towards great apes. Further, why was this assertion not accepted when first proposed by László Kordos in January 2000.---

New results of Hominoid research in the Carpathian Basin

The combination of RUD-200 and other specimens of Dryopithecus from Hungary,France and Spain provides evidence of an African great ape morphology of the palate,mid-face,orbital region,neurocranium and craniofacial hafting,lending substantial support to the hypothesis of European origin of the African ape and human clade.

Finally, why is there no substantiation to “the earliest-known great ape fossil, broadly ancestral to all living great apes and humans” What is it, a tooth?

[medved]

I say again, the evolutionists are looking at the wrong end of the "lineup" or whatever you want to call it of hominid and human types. The problem is at the near end and not the far end.

Recent studies of neanderthal DNA turned up the result that neanderthal DNA is "about halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee", and that there is no way we could interbreed with them or be descended from them via any process resembling evolution. That says that anybody wishing to believe that modern man evolved has to come up with some closer hominid, i.e. a plausible ancestor for modern man, and that the closer hominid would stand closer to us in both time and morphology than the neanderthal, and that his works and remains should be very easy to find, since neanderthal remains and works are all over the map. Of course, no such closer hominid exists; all other hominids are much further from us than the neanderthal.

An evolutionist could try to claim that we and the neanderthal both are descended from some more remote ancestor 200,000 years ago, but that would be like claiming that dogs couldn't be descended from wolves, and must therefore be descended from fish, i.e. the claim would be idiotic.

That leaves three possibilities: modern man was created from scratch very recently, was genetically re-engineered from the neanderthal, or was imported from elsewhere in the cosmos.

There is no rational way to believe that modern man evolved here on Earth. Only a wilfully ignorant person could believe that.

[gore3000]

What a find! It took them 20 years to find some nonsense to say about this find "proving" the descent of man. The source of course does not bother to show the evidence for any of the nonsense mentioned in it - it would show them to be the liars which they are. Here is Dryopithecus:

[SunkenCiv]

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