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Teen rape victim blasts lenient judge: Confessed attacker got probation (Hooray for Massachusetts)
Boston Herald | Tuesday, February 19, 2002 | Franci Richardson

Posted on 02/19/2002 4:24:16 AM PST by Lance Romance

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To: Lance Romance; TLBSHOW
And, it is the home of William Rivers Pitt.
81 posted on 02/21/2002 8:34:19 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: Lance Romance
Perhaps you could lay out a case, where a 19 year old rapes a minor, that you think probation is an appropriate. I certainly can't do it.

I was tempted to lay out that case in an earlier post but that is really not the point I am trying to make or what I am asking. Just want to stick to the facts right now - which what is missing from the article. I certainly am not condoning sexual relationships between 19-year-olds and 14-year-olds.

82 posted on 02/21/2002 11:11:56 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: murdoog
...if this only fit one of the more questionable definitions, I doubt the guy would have admitted to raping her. And I don't think the girl would have been as angry and traumatized as she seems to have been if it was just statutory rape.

There are such things as plea bargains and his lawyer very well may have known the sentence would be what it was in convincing his client to admit to the rape charge.

As for the 14-year-old, can you not imagine a situation where she has gotten in trouble with her parents for her behavior and the way to avoid that is to turn on he "boyfriend." It also would not be the first time a 14-year-old that you and I would consider very complicit in the act asserted rape.

Again, we are forced into this speculation by a lazy job of reporting or a reporter that did not want us to know the circumstances.

83 posted on 02/21/2002 11:18:23 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: Burkeman1
Is it the time for manditory up or down votes on judges, say every four years? All of them, Let the Gov appoint 'em, the GC approve 'em, two years after appointment up or down, then every four years there after, up or down.

District Court by area, Superior Court by county, this includes Probate and Family court, the SJC State wide.

84 posted on 02/21/2002 11:35:42 AM PST by Little Bill
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To: BJungNan
You wrote:
Don't be rediculas and don't assign positions to me that I do not hold and have not stated. Unless you found information in the story that I have not seen, it has not been determined in this thread that it was, as you say, statutory rape. Perhaps you are unaware of this, but having sex with a minor constitutes statutory rape...whether it was consensual or not. So yes, since the victim was 14, it has been determined that it was statutory rape.
85 posted on 02/21/2002 11:39:49 AM PST by PoorRider
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To: PoorRider
Amen. I don't need to know every last detail of a case in order to render a fair judgement. I don't care if he was raped as a minor or his parents burned him with cigarettes. Underage is underage and you need to know better. Nothing indicates that this was consensual sex.
86 posted on 02/21/2002 12:25:07 PM PST by Lance Romance
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To: PoorRider
So yes, since the victim was 14, it has been determined that it was statutory rape.

Now I stand corrected. And, I would say we have exhausted this thread. If anyone finds out what the actual cicumstances were, please let me know. All the Best!

87 posted on 02/21/2002 5:35:10 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Little Bill
why not?
88 posted on 02/21/2002 10:14:08 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Lance Romance
Perhaps you could lay out a case, where a 19 year old rapes a minor, that you think probation is an appropriate. I certainly can't do it.

I can. Someone who just turned 19 has consensual sex with someone who will turn 17 in a month in a state where there is no "age difference" clause in the statutory rape law.(I know that's not what happened here.)

89 posted on 02/22/2002 7:23:34 AM PST by murdoog
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To: Burkeman1
As I sit in the rather chilly sun of the Gulf Coast pondering the problem and it is this:

To run a petition campaign you need people and money, in the Mass FReeper world rather short commodidies. A petition needs about 80,00 signatures, plus support in the General Court, constitutional ammendment. The Cost judging from my experiences with the libertines is between $3 and $4 a signature, less with volunteers.

This does not include the election, I know of a lawyer in North Andover, that has drawn up a petition, interest and money lacking.

Bill

90 posted on 02/23/2002 11:40:48 AM PST by Little Bill
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