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To: Askel5
Yeah but all this stuff (and worse) was going on to women and children (of both sexes) and some men BEFORE the advent of contraception and widespread access to pornography. Also, the debauchery and abuse continued apace in Christian as well as non-Christian countries and cultures.

Sorry, I don't agree with the rose colored glasses view of history that many Conservatives like to engage in. Although I agree that pornography probably contributes to the cultural acceptance and continuance of girls/women/children as ojects of sexual gratification, I don't agree that it started it or is the primary cause.

The primary cause is the superiority complex of elite groups of people with virtually unlimited social/economic/political power over others .... who feel ENTITLED to do as they wish. Just look at the recent sex slavery scandals with both UN and USA contractor employees in Bosnia. As long as these people have any kind of power over others ... in this case enslaved young girls and women bought and sold like cattle, these people will abuse that power to the detriment of the weaker members ... the weaker the better for these "priveledged" degenerates ... which is why they frequently target children.
158 posted on 02/22/2002 10:50:47 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Actually, I think women have proven remarkably keen on pornography and -- given the supervision, clothes and moral guidance they give their girls (en route to some $70 seats at the Back Stage Boys or Britney's latest concert, best friends that they are) -- I'm no so sure they really care all that much about "the children" as long as their girls don't end up pregnant and costing 'em an abortion.

Look at the way they dress, much less the way they mutilate themselves with silicone and liposuction and botulism, for Pete's sake. If what passes for "entertainment" on television's any example, having some guy urinate on you is the stuff of Lucille Ball situation comedy slapstick these days.

So ... hearkening to the libertarian "right to self-destruction", I don't really have much sympathy for the poor women -- the dancers, the strippers, the 900-operators, the porn stars -- or the daughters and sons of mothers and fathers who are allowed to embrace wholeheartedly the culture of death whose signature is the vampirish sex that will not be sated ... sucking as it is on a bone that's sere.

Instead, I feel sorry for those who have no clue that the primary effect of porn is indeed to condition a person to being an object of manipulation and destroy utterly his self-sovereignty by reducting himself (or her womb) to a thing subject to the control of images and chemicals and Peer Pressure.

It's little wonder the government's so inclined to dumb down Free Speech to sexual expression and their agit-prop artists in Hollywood wrap the likes of Larry Flynt in a US flag.

159 posted on 02/22/2002 11:15:36 AM PST by Askel5
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