There is only one reality. Some choose to reject reality, along with the methods we've developed for learning about reality. They live in fantasy-land, but rational people don't regard their personal visions as science.
Sanity is tough to define, but science comes close to a definition by requiring replication of results by independent observers.
It is fact, not logic that is at issue.
848 posted on 2/26/02 12:27 PM Hawaii-Aleutian by PatrickHenry
Fantasy-land has a name---"science"(EVOLUTION)!
That statement requires proof unless it is in the purview of science. If it cannot be proven it is therefore an assumption.
Seems to me that it is the evolutionists that reject reality. Seems to me they try to cloud reality with a bunch of lies. A good example of this is the great "discoveries" of paleontology. Here's one example, Eosimias, called by the evos, so called scientists and the press 'the missing link of human evolution'. Here's Eosimias:
Time Magazine's Eosimias illustration
The Evolutionary tree showing Eosimias's place in it
This must be quite a find indeed! The whole history of man, the missing link, finally found! A great new specimen found!
There are many links to the pictures above, however you will have to look for a long time for the pictures of the bones showing this fantastic find. I found a site which showed the bones and guess what, they were from those totally unscientific folk called creationists. Imagine the nerve, the total gall of these people of showing the evidence, the bones, upon which those gorgeous drawings were made! How unscientific can they get?:
Alas! Here's the picture! The proof of macro-evolution, the proof that Darwin was right! The proof that God does not exist!
From:Evolution in the News - September 2000
In case you missed it, the "evidence" is in the case being held by the man, the bones are two, just above the white ruler.
However, this is not the only evidence for Eosimias of course, Here's the story of the lower jaw of Eosimias from: Picture Gallery of Fossil Hominoids and Hominids from China
The lower jaw depicted here, from Lufeng, Yunnan, was initially attributed to Ramapithecus lufengensis. Ramapithecus was considered, until the late 1970s, to be an early human ancestor based primarily on its hominid-like dentition. At the time of its discovery this specimen was the most complete mandible of "Ramapithecus" known. With the demise of "Ramapithecus" in the 1980s, and its reassessment as the female morph of a highly sexually dimorphic great ape with affinities to the modern orang-utan, the Lufeng material was reevaluated. Since the mid-1980s hominoid specimens from Lufeng have been classified as Lufengpithecus lufengensis. Its phylogenetic affinities are still under debate with various authors suggesting affinities to the orang-utan, African apes or the last common ancestor of all living great apes, including humans.
In other words, they had a bone without a purpose. They had tried to fit it several times into something, anything. Finally they found two ankle bones, and since the bones were the right size, in spite of having been discovered some 30 years earlier, hundreds of miles away, with no other connection between the two, they were assigned to Eosimias to "prove" that the missing link had indeed been found.
The list of what I would call "the whores of evolution" which have hailed this as a great find consist of the Carnegie Museums, ABC News, Der Spiegel, UCLA, UC Davis, the BBC, The NY Times, Johns Hopkins as well as Time Magazine and Newsweek.
As Virginia-American said of medved's post showing that scientists do not believe the fossil record proves evolution - "res ipsas loquitur". And in plain English, as I have been saying all along, evolution is fairy tales for atheists.