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And this is different from faith in what way?

We can create abiotic conditions in the laboratory (since they don't exist in nature anymore) and we get can get complex hydrocarbon soup in fairly short periods of time. A week or so, not billions of years. With a small flask, not a whole ocean.

So, you think what a whole abiotic planet and lots of time might do.

Is that faith or just a rational model with a skoach of imagination? Before you take off on "imagination = faith," look at gore3000 woodenly assuming that each scrap of fossil bone is all the evidence there ever is or was for the reconstruction of said fossil. That's a failure of imagination, not faith.

Look at Frumious B's original argumentum ad walnut that the lack of pre-biotic soup today proves something. Faith he has. Imagination he has not.

Here, I answered, "Do you find it interesting that if you set out fresh bread, meat, milk, butter, or cheese, something large or microscopic or in-between will eat it?"

Frumious's rather jaw-dropping response:

Wouldn't happen if the lifeforms that eat these foods didn't exist. So your question really has nothing to do with the ID vs evolution debate.

When the other side does that, I want to thank them for making it so clear what's going on. Not that you're sure what it is that's going on, but it can't be good.

Stultis was analyzing this curiosity when you chimed in, "'So we have no 'material' evidence of a 'pre-biotic soup', yet it is necessary for the paradigm so is assumed."

Factually incorrect, O Accuracy-Obsessed one.

gore3000 woodenly assuming that each scrap of fossil bone is all the evidence there ever is or was for the reconstruction of said fossil.

You keep posting this even though I have said no such thing. Kindly do not put words in my mouth.

What I said was that lexcorp offered a link as proof of macro-evolution and the link did not provide such proof. In spite of your harping on this for more posts than I cared to read, and even adding up all the additional "evidence" presented by you, you still have failed to provide proof of the macro-evolution of whales from terrestrial animals. You have failed to give evidence of any intervening species showing the change in the breast bones towards those of whales and the gradual loss of the legs.