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To: VadeRetro
"When I refer to archaic Homo sapiens I mean the fossil species of that name."

Vade, you have the word archaic in a chart you yourself drew! And that is supposed to mean something? Paleontologists all the time refer to archaic this and archaic that for bones that they have not found. As usual you are talking semantics, not substance.

You seem to continue to try to deny the truth of the self evident statement that dead species do not reproduce. Since none of these archaics, Erectus's or limps were around when homo sapiens arose, they are irrelevant to the discussion of ancestry of man. I have shown quite clearly that your Erectus was not around when homo sapiens arose (see my post#1278 to Junior putting an end to that evolutionist lie) and that was the last of the candidates for man's ancestry you evos tried to pawn off.

1,333 posted on 03/02/2002 8:34:31 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Vade, you have the word archaic in a chart you yourself drew! And that is supposed to mean something? Paleontologists all the time refer to archaic this and archaic that for bones that they have not found. As usual you are talking semantics, not substance.
Your arguments are so pathetic! I sourced the chart the first time I pasted it in. (I only pasted it because you're such a notorious slacker at clicking links.) Once again, the chart is from The TalkOrigins Fossil Hominid Species Page. Lest you go after the messenger for making up this species, we'll try a web search:

980 hits.

Let's look at the first page up:

Early Modern Homo sapiens. (Is "early modern" an oxymoron? Is Homo sapiens an oxymoron?)

Current data suggest that Homo sapiens sapiens very likely evolved from archaic Homo sapiens relatively rapidly in Africa and/or the Southwest Asia.
Link 3 has a nice timeline of the archaic/modern/neanderthal overlap:

From Archaic Homo Sapiens. Your gap game is over for this era.

The text with this figure speaks of the intergrading of the various specimens that makes species assignment so difficult:

It is difficult to speak of our ancestors in terms of specific species during this long period of accelerated change from 600,000 to 100,000 years ago. Some paleoanthropologists now classify the more biologically progressive post-600,000 B.P. populations in Europe and parts of Africa as a distinct species--Homo heidelbergensis. By 300,000 years ago, some of these populations had begun the evolutionary transition that would end up with Neandertals and other peoples that have been collectively referred to has archaic Homo sapiens (shown as red in the diagram below [Well, now it's above.--VR]). By 100,000 B.P., some of the later archaic Homo sapiens had evolved into modern Homo sapiens. Complicating the picture is the fact that, in at least one area of Southeast Asia, a few Homo erectus remained until around at least 60,000 years ago.

Some of the other links look pretty interesting too, but I'll get on to your other replies.

1,346 posted on 03/03/2002 4:59:38 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: gore3000

Incipient Neanderthal? Don't these hominid species appear from nowhere and then disappear leaving huge gaps between them? And aren't they all so different it's easy to agree how many kinds there are and what goes where?

1,358 posted on 03/03/2002 6:46:50 AM PST by VadeRetro
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