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To: VadeRetro
It's an open question whether Neanderthals and modern humans ever mated. There's evidence both ways right now. "

Let's see the proof. Your table proves nothing. No one denies that Neanderthal is the closest species to homo sapiens. There is also absolutely no trace of "archaic homo sapiens". If there were it would have a name and the evolutionists would be shouting its existence from the rooftops. Show the evidence, right here - unless you are ashamed to show everyone what nonsense you base your claims on.

1,063 posted on 02/27/2002 6:39:07 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Let's see the proof. Your table proves nothing. No one denies that Neanderthal is the closest species to homo sapiens.

There are no gaps of overlap in that table.

There is also absolutely no trace of "archaic homo sapiens".

Is a skull a trace?

Discovered at Arago in southern France in 1971 by Henry de Lumley. Estimated age is 400,000 years. The fossil consists of a fairly complete face, with 5 molar teeth and part of the braincase. The brain size was about 1150 cc. The skull contains a mixture of features from archaic Homo sapiens and Homo erectus, to which it is sometimes assigned.
Discovered by a laborer in 1921 at Broken Hill in Northern Rhodesia (now Kabwe in Zambia) (Woodward 1921). This was a complete cranium that was very robust, with large brow ridges and a receding forehead. Estimated age is between 200,000 and 125,000 years. The brain size was about 1280 cc.
Discovered by villagers at Petralona in Greece in 1960. Estimated age is 250,000-500,000 years. It could alternatively be considered to be a late Homo erectus, and also has some Neandertal characteristics. The brain size is 1220 cc, high for erectus but low for sapiens, and the face is large with particularly wide jaws. (Day 1986)
(Emphasis mine.) Some Neanderthal characteristics in a skull from Greece 250,000 years ago? But aren't they all supposed to be separate and distinct kinds, gore? But a biblical kind is a slippery concept. Maybe you're the same biblical kind as a howler monkey.

Discovered in the Sima de los Huesos ("Pit of Bones") at the Atapuerca cave site in northern Spain in 1992 and 1993 by Juan-Luis Arsuaga. It is about 300,000 years old, with a brain size of 1125 cc. The face is broad with a huge nasal opening, and resembles Neandertals in some traits but not in others. This is the most complete pre-modern skull in the entire hominid fossil record. (Arsuaga et al. 1993; Johanson and Edgar 1996)
"Neanderthal in some traits but not in others." There they go again. Since you don't believe Neanderthals evolved from any older stock or mated with modern H. sapiens, there is no explanation for a mixed creature except yet another Goddidit bin to lump the mixed-feature fossils.

Yet you screech and jabber that you're the only one with the science.

1,085 posted on 02/28/2002 5:46:45 AM PST by VadeRetro
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