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To: Jerry_M
Seems to us that the Apostle Paul was dealing with people who think exactly as you do.

Well since he was talking to the believers in Rome (Romans 1:7) perhaps so.

Surely you and mom and doc will think this heresy, but here are Wesley's notes on the passage:

Therefore, though "He hath mercy on whom he willeth, and whom he willeth he hardeneth," that is, suffers to be hardened in consequence of their obstinate wickedness; yet his is not the will of an arbitrary, capricious, or tyrannical being. He wills nothing but what is infinitely wise and good; and therefore his will is a most proper rule of judgment. He will show mercy, as he hath assured us, to none but true believers, nor harden any but such as obstinately refuse his mercy.

I recognize the sovereignty of God. And I recognize He can and will do whatever He so desires and that I have no right or provision to question that.

I do not question the sovereignty of God. I do not question the authority of the scripture.

I do question your interpretations.

532 posted on 02/21/2002 11:49:37 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: Ward Smythe;the_doc
I do not question the sovereignty of God. I do not question the authority of the scripture.
I do question your interpretations.

I had to kind of smile here Ward because a year ago I was saying the same thing

I DO believe God is sovereign..YES I DO !!!

But you know what Ward..I did not really , I mean I said it..and I thought I meant it but the truth is I had a compromised view of it. What I believed was God PROVES He is "sovereign" by not being sovereign. God proves He is the God of HIStory by letting it be MANstory. God proves He is God by letting man be god.

No God is the God of HIStory. God is the God of the future Revelation..all of time unfolds under His command....includung my salvation.

Prophecy is His story He planned it, wrote it, He produced it and directed it..It is HIS. I am His.....He selected His bride...He slected HIS Sheep, He formed the clay pot..it is ALL His..

535 posted on 02/21/2002 12:06:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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