[hopespringseternal]

. I have laid out a simplified version of mine from the Scriptures. When you do want to honestly make an attempt to understand my position, you do know where to find me.

Get off it. You put two contradictory statements in the same post and then get huffy because I can't understand you? What do you expect?

I really would like to know where you are coming from, but honestly, I can't figure it out.

[CCWoody]

Get off it. You put two contradictory statements in the same post and then get huffy because I can't understand you? What do you expect?

No, there is nothing contradictory in my statements. The natural man does not want to do anything God pleasing, ever. This is exactly what I posted in #111. As a result, the natural man will not do anything God pleasing. Go read my #111 again. You are reading your prejudiced anti-Calvinism into what I am saying. I am not defending Total Inability; I am defending a Biblically presented position.

Romans 3:12 ...There is none who does good, no, not one.

Why? Because he does not want to do good.