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T.U.L..I.P. and why I disagree with it
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Posted on 02/17/2002 11:35:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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posted on
02/17/2002 11:35:16 PM PST
by
fortheDeclaration
(Rnmomof7,George W.Bush,CCWoody,theDoc,OrthodoxPresbyterian,Jerry_M)
To: fortheDeclaration
Good post. Thanks
To: fortheDeclaration
Read Romans 9. Paul gives an arguement and defense of Election (Calvinism).
To: Knight_125
Read Romans 9. Paul gives an arguement and defense of Election (Calvinism) Read it. Romans 9-11 are parenthical, dealing with Israel, not individual salvation.
To: the_doc; Jerry_M; RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian
It looks like ftd has found someone else who either cannot or does not want to correctly define our position.
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:29:04 PM PST
by
CCWoody
To: fortheDeclaration
Catholics read that someone named Mary existed and before you know it, she is the Queen of heaven, immaculately conceived, ascended into heaven, ever virgin, mediatrix, etc etc etc etc.
To say that there is no scripture supporting election is every bit as deceitful.
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:29:49 PM PST
by
biblewonk
To: fortheDeclaration
I'm just glad that I had enough intelligence and humility to choose Christ, unlike those wretched heathens.
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:40:22 PM PST
by
newgeezer
To: fortheDeclaration
Thank you Lord that I'm not like those foolish and faithless heathens. Thank you that I was good enough and smart enough to believe in Jesus. Those heathens will have no one to blame but themselves for believing and I will have no one to thank but....
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:43:04 PM PST
by
biblewonk
To: fortheDeclaration
*Hears Tiny Tim singing in the background*
"Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. in the garden of make believe..."
Sorry, I realy couldn't resist. Thank God Christianity believes in forgiveness.
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:44:58 PM PST
by
Outlaw76
To: fortheDeclaration
It's difficult to accept just a little bit of providence. For example, do you believe that God creates souls and determines into what physical form and environs they are to be born? If so, aren't you glad He did not put you in Turkey? After all, that would be pre-ordaining you to a life of Islam.
To: CCWoody
Yawn. Sniff, sniff, is that the smell of straw men burning?
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:50:36 PM PST
by
Jerry_M
To: CCWoody; Knight_125; StDon The Baptist
ftD has never given satisfactory answers to
any of my arguments concerning Romans 9. On another thread, I demonstrated conclusively that his "National Israel" explanation doesn't work. The entire chapter is talking about salvation.
This just gets curiouser and curiouser.
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:53:46 PM PST
by
the_doc
To: Fifth Business
Cool screen name.
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:54:43 PM PST
by
the_doc
To: fortheDeclaration
First off, the definition of TULIP that I have been taught starts with T for "Total Depravity", something different from what this article is talking about. And again, it fails to truthfully talk about the Calvinist position - but here is an area where there are many more knowledgable people than me to talk.
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posted on
02/18/2002 12:54:57 PM PST
by
JenB
To: the_doc
On another thread, I demonstrated conclusively that his "National Israel" explanation doesn't work.Please post the link or URL. Next time I hear that one, I want to shoot it full of holes.
To: the_doc
Cool screen nameThanks. I borrowed it from the title of one of Robertson Davies' books.
To: fortheDeclaration
The author's claims have been refuted several times right here on FR.
Will you glorify God, or man? Ya can't do both.
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posted on
02/18/2002 1:03:04 PM PST
by
rdb3
To: Outlaw76
Thank God Christianity believes in forgiveness.
It doesn't.
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posted on
02/18/2002 1:04:27 PM PST
by
rdb3
To: Jerry_M
Looks like FTD has posted a parody of the Calvinist position held by you, me, and the others on this forum.
Just a rehash of the old, tired mischaracterizations of the Calvinist theology.
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posted on
02/18/2002 1:09:13 PM PST
by
jude24
To: CCWoody
Do you guys even know what your position is?
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