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Car fire set off suspicions as crew fought it (Smith Tennesee License Scandal)
GoMemphis ^ | 15 Feb 2002 | By Bill Dries

Posted on 02/15/2002 1:35:24 PM PST by weegee

The first firefighters at a fiery car wreck Sunday in Fayette County that killed a Memphis driver's license examiner thought it was suspicious even as they put out the flames. Investigators began an immediate search for a device that might have triggered the intense fire, said the chief of the Piperton Fire Department.

The fire killed Katherine Smith, the examiner at the center of a federal investigation of an alleged scheme to issue driver's licenses fraudulently to men with Middle Eastern ties.

Smith died one day before she was due to appear before a federal magistrate judge for a detention hearing on the conspiracy charge. She was released on her own recognizance, but her five co-defendants have been in custody since their arrests Feb. 5.

Piperton Fire Chief Steve Kellett said he, other firefighters and Tennessee Highway Patrol officers immediately thought the fire was suspicious. For one thing, the fire appeared to have started in the rear.

"The thing that was strange about it was how high up in the car it was. Normally, if it's from a gas line, it tends to burn up everything and works from the front to the back," Kellett said Thursday.

His description is consistent with testimony Wednesday by FBI agent J. Suzanne Nash before Magistrate Judge J. Daniel Breen. Nash said a group of six witnesses saw a fire in the back seat of Smith's car as the 1992 Acura Legend veered off a stretch of U.S. 72 shortly before 1 a.m. The car crossed a ditch and landed against a utility pole.

"There was lots of damage for the amount of time it was on fire," Kellett said, noting that the fire also spread to the pole. "We would spray an area that normally would go out, but it would keep catching back. That gives you a feeling that there was something there."

Highway Patrol investigators did not find an incendiary device in the car that night, Kellett said, ". . . but they were looking for one."

The Piperton department is trained in fighting arson and spotting signs of accelerants - substances used to start and direct the path of fires. "We've had a lot of training. We've seen what accelerated fires can do," Kellett said.

In 1996, he investigated a similar vehicle fire. In that case, a truck was burned with a device that used a milk jug filled with gasoline.

Nash testified Wednesday that Smith's clothing had gasoline on it and that a dog trained to detect the presence of accelerants indicated such substances were in the car.

Samples of those materials are being tested, she said. She also said the fire was set but did not say how or who may have done it.

Kellett said two "bubble spots" on the back of the trunk indicate arson. "Something was pushing the fire. It was focusing it in a direction."


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KEYWORDS: jihadinamerica; katherinesmith; licensescandal; memphis; mojados; mpd; ocsmith; tnlicensescandals
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1 posted on 02/15/2002 1:35:24 PM PST by weegee
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To: Dog
A meaty bone for you to chew on *ping* to you Dog.
2 posted on 02/15/2002 1:37:39 PM PST by illstillbe
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To: weegee;Wright is Right;testforecho;Shermy;illstillbe
Kellett said two "bubble spots" on the back of the trunk indicate arson. "Something was pushing the fire. It was focusing it in a direction."

Someone explain how this fire was "pushed"...

3 posted on 02/15/2002 1:58:40 PM PST by Dog
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To: Grampa Dave; Lion's Cub; ingtar; Alamo-Girl; Inge_CAV;archy
PING - more details (this from the fire fighters on the scene on the crime).
4 posted on 02/15/2002 2:05:54 PM PST by weegee
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To: Dog
Somebody went to a lot of trouble to make it "look" like an accident: moving vehicle leaves road, hits pole, burns up, cremates driver.

Yet, it so obviously wasn't an accident.

One wonders why they bothered. Why not a simple bullet-in-the-head execution?

The method itself raises questions concerning the motivation.

5 posted on 02/15/2002 2:11:06 PM PST by okie01
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To: weegee
"We would spray an area that normally would go out, but it would keep catching back. That gives you a feeling that there was something there."

Sounds like Willey Pete -- white phosphorus. I think the only way to put that out is to totally remove all exposure to oxygen.

6 posted on 02/15/2002 2:16:28 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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To: okie01
Without withnesses, the car would have had time to totally burn before the FD showed up. By then it wouldn't be clear where the fire started, how long it burned, and the accelerant would have burned off so it would extinguish normally. No-one would know it was on fire before it hit the pole. Just one more of the 50,000 people killed in a traffic accident in any given year...
7 posted on 02/15/2002 2:17:15 PM PST by null and void
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To: okie01
Person(s) unfamiliar with modern forensic science?
8 posted on 02/15/2002 2:18:04 PM PST by weegee
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To: JackelopeBreeder
This fire was intense. Could something like that be at risk of burning itself out if the fire grows too large, too quickly?
9 posted on 02/15/2002 2:19:41 PM PST by weegee
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To: okie01
Interesting.

Im inclined to think the pole wasn't part of a staging. Merely the thing that stopped the car which was slowing down anyway.

Perhaps the contraption intended to blow up the gas tank too, which might give a better cover story as an accident. But this didn't happen.

10 posted on 02/15/2002 2:20:14 PM PST by Shermy
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To: null and void
But this was a well-travelled highway. There was little liklihood that it would burn out before attracting attention.
11 posted on 02/15/2002 2:21:18 PM PST by okie01
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To: null and void
I really want to think that this was caused by something out of this Ladies past other than this possible terrorist connection....

Because.....

This is truly chilling if this pans out to be connected to the 5 in jail. It would mean we have a sleeper cell in Tenn with possible New York connections who just told us they will go to any length to stay hidden...

Chilling!

12 posted on 02/15/2002 2:22:43 PM PST by Dog
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To: okie01
One wonders why they bothered. Why not a simple bullet-in-the-head execution?

Obviously, they thought they could get away with it. Which means they aren't so smart. But they are ruthless, and they're still nearby.

13 posted on 02/15/2002 2:23:11 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: okie01
This happened a 12:30 am ...midnight...might not have been any traffic...
14 posted on 02/15/2002 2:23:44 PM PST by Dog
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To: Shermy
As the inspector in Plan 9 From Outer Space said,"(she's) dead. Murdered! And somebody's responsible!"

Whoever botched this job may not be long for this world himself.

15 posted on 02/15/2002 2:24:45 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
Anyone answer this .....

How hot would this fire have to get to burn her arms and legs off??

16 posted on 02/15/2002 2:25:21 PM PST by Dog
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To: okie01
A few minutes delay in getting help might have been enough. If as the previous poster said had the gas tank had gone, the damage would be much less suspicious. Perhaps a bad timer/detonator set it off at a less than perfect time.

It pretty clearly wasn't an accident.

With slightly different timing, or hitting, say, an oncoming car it sure would have looked like one.

We're not dealing with nice people here...

17 posted on 02/15/2002 2:27:26 PM PST by null and void
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To: Dog
Yup. That's exactly what it means...
18 posted on 02/15/2002 2:28:43 PM PST by null and void
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To: Shermy
"Perhaps the contraption intended to blow up the gas tank too..."

"Contraption." My thought, too.

The idea of Molotov cocktail thrown from another car makes no sense. How do you throw one inside a moving car, especially with the windows up (as I presume they were)?

Somebody would have had to waylay the lady, render her unconscious, douse her and the car with gasoline or some other accelerant, then rig it with some kind of device.

Then, and only then, move the car to this particular stretch of highway, start it rolling, bail out and activate the device.

The process requires at least one confederate...and some preparation time. I wonder where and when the lady was last seen alive...

19 posted on 02/15/2002 2:29:50 PM PST by okie01
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To: Dog
"This happened a 12:30 am ...midnight...might not have been any traffic..."

Six witnesses saw the car leave the road.

20 posted on 02/15/2002 2:30:51 PM PST by okie01
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