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Car fire set off suspicions as crew fought it (Smith Tennesee License Scandal)
GoMemphis ^ | 15 Feb 2002 | By Bill Dries

Posted on 02/15/2002 1:35:24 PM PST by weegee

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To: Registered, Inge_Cav, weegee, _Jim
Investigators began an immediate search for a device that might have triggered the intense fire, said the chief of the Piperton Fire Department.

Where in the article does it say that a device was NOT found? Did I miss it?

IMHO, if they did find a device, that would be something they'd keep off the record to increase the liklihood of conviction in any future case against someone.

Jim, I'm still waiting for you to tell me why a woman would roll down her window...

121 posted on 02/15/2002 7:56:41 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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Make that "likelihood."
122 posted on 02/15/2002 7:58:45 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: weegee
That works great now if we can figure out how to get it to show up on here. I had the Hwy enlarged right across the Miss line but it wouldn't post on here.

BTW: You are doing a great job with this story. Just like your screenname did. : )

123 posted on 02/15/2002 8:01:56 PM PST by Inge_CAV
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To: Nita Nupress
"IMHO, if they did find a device, that would be something they'd keep off the record to increase the liklihood of conviction in any future case against someone."

Your IMHO is probably correct, in my IMHO.

: )

124 posted on 02/15/2002 8:11:38 PM PST by Inge_CAV
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To: weegee
Okay, they incapacitated her some how, but enough that she couldn't resist what they were doing.
125 posted on 02/15/2002 8:40:32 PM PST by Registered
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To: Inge_CAV
It's been stated that analysis on the car and body may take several more weeks to yield all of the results from the tests that are being conducted.

I'll leave them to do their work (at least they did go public with the arson, eliminated "accident" from the discussion).

I do intend to follow the stories on this case for awhile and chime in where I can. At this point a good number of my responses have been to help coordinate information from different threads and help bring some posters up to speed (alive at the time of fire, accelerant, witnesses, previous car owner, etc.). Is it asking too much to see a journalist (perhaps in one of America's newsweeklies like Time or Newsweek) recap the details on this incident?

126 posted on 02/15/2002 8:46:35 PM PST by weegee
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To: Registered;yall
Tinfoil link:

Mystery death of scientist (Yet another scientist has been killed in mysterious circumstances)

Contains info on bridge jumper pushee in Tennesse

127 posted on 02/15/2002 8:48:13 PM PST by null and void
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To: Registered
I'm thinking that "something" splashed gasoline on her. Could someone have hit her outside on her way to the car? Unlikely but possible.

If the gasoline could have been smelled inside of the car it would have drawn attention. Something inside the car could have sprayed her (triggered on an event) but could it do sufficient quantity and a fireball quick enough to overtake her to prevent exit (or maybe faulty door locks that she was willing to manage with until she "owned" the car)?

It's all speculation. The only car bomb I can recall from the movies is the one on the radio at the beginning of Casino.

Someone who has seen the different flavors of car "bombs" will be better prepared to look for clues as to just what was done in this instance.

I'm thinking that she may not have even been incapacitated when the fireball torched (so fiercely that she breathed it in, possibly indicating something in the front). I would throw some suspicion on the locks (if she couldn't get out then she would be incapacitated quickly and no one would be the wiser).

I believe that it would be difficult to sustain the car in motion on the highway after placing the body inside. I would think that it would soon be off course.

128 posted on 02/15/2002 8:57:57 PM PST by weegee
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To: maestro
I went away and pictured somebody in the road waving his arms and come back and you're uniforms.

We assume from the photo that the moon roof was closed and broke from the heat.

Racing back to college on a Sunday night in the rain three of us were passed by a speeding drunk. Who hit the concrete bridge and caught fire. The three of us snuck up on this mess and though the car was really too hot, got the door open and the unconscious guy out. Flagged down a Barracuda (remember?) and I got to hold his head in the back on the folded flat seat, saying, "Don't die, don't die." He bled from the nose and ears and mouth and didn't open his eyes and when I called back to the hospital, "Oh, no, he didn't make it."

So somebody jumped out in front of her car? I don't know. . .highway speeds. . .hard to see anything but a Stephen King clown from It surviving that.

She could've been unconscious but breathing in the passenger seat and driven there by a driver and a gas man (to the tune of the Beatles' "Taxman") in the back seat. Set au flambeau and a stick on the gas, popped into gear in time for the Griswolds on vacation to go "Kewl! That babe is HOT!" BOOM (watchout for the tree)

She was inconvenient. I mean, Jumpin' Jack Jihad it's a gas gas gas.

129 posted on 02/15/2002 9:18:00 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: weegee; *TN License Scandals
Related stories about this murder in *TN License Scandals located at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/involved?group=383
130 posted on 02/16/2002 12:01:39 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: *TN License Scandals
Indexing
131 posted on 02/16/2002 12:55:13 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: _Jim
This had to be something planted in the car.....under the backseat....or dashboard set off by remote control... Don't ya think there would be REMAINS of something if that were the case? That aspect is rather easy to put to rest.
This was one intense, short burning fire. Her arms and legs were burned off. Gas burns pretty hot, but not hot enough to do that kind of damage in that short of time. One would think, if the car had a strong gas odor, would she just get in and drive it? Either she was dead and was put in the car, or it was triggered after she was in and driving. Either way, it's just another coincidental death relating to 9/11, nothing more to see here. Blackbird.
132 posted on 02/16/2002 1:30:23 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: Registered
Just heard a couple of people took a mysterious red residue off one of the rear seats...where was the Navy when this happened?

My question is: Was rivero anywhere nearby?

133 posted on 02/16/2002 12:17:42 PM PST by _Jim
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To: BlackbirdSST
This was one intense, short burning fire. ... Gas burns pretty hot ...

Uh huh ... and how many years on the force as an arson investigator have you had?

I would ALSO say that your experience with gasoline fires is a little limited ... when was the last time you 'played' with a gas fire out behind the barn - ever?

134 posted on 02/16/2002 12:21:07 PM PST by _Jim
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Sounds like Willey Pete -- white phosphorus. I think the only way to put that out is to totally remove all exposure to oxygen.

Willie Pete was exactly what I thought, probably combined with gasoline sot that if the fire was subdued for a time, the willie pete would reignite it.

135 posted on 02/16/2002 12:24:51 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: _Jim
Uh huh ... and how many years on the force as an arson investigator have you had? I would ALSO say that your experience with gasoline fires is a little limited ... when was the last time you 'played' with a gas fire out behind the barn - ever? Voluteer Firefighter for Engine Co. Never laid any claim to being an investigator. Hell I never qualified what I sais above as a statement of fact. What it is bozo, is an observation. Obviously, you outrank me, so lay some facts on me. I do hold some knowledge in this area so tread lightly. I happen to know several Arson Investigators. Blackbird.
136 posted on 02/17/2002 1:12:50 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: Shermy; weegee
Bookmarking this thread!
137 posted on 03/14/2002 12:16:40 PM PST by Inge_CAV
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To: Inge_CAV

Bump for anything new!


138 posted on 11/04/2004 4:12:05 AM PST by Inge_CAV
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To: weegee

A Who-done-it BUMP!!

This investigation seems to have been buried before the deceased was in the ground. I am sure it wasn't but it does seem that way.


139 posted on 04/14/2006 4:04:41 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: Inge_CAV

Got my hopes up that there was an update.

Just as nosing around on Google, I learned that the "third gay male" in the Texas sodomy case (the ex-boyfriend who called the police that night) had a pending assault charge against one of the men. He was assaulted and murdered before the case came to trial.

No one in the media wants to touch that case (at least the Dallas paper was willing to admit that the two prominant homosexuals were not saints and that they had a number of violent and drug charges already against them for past offenses).


140 posted on 04/14/2006 7:20:42 AM PDT by weegee ("CBS NEWS? Is that show still on?" - freedomson)
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