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Milosevic: [Clinton] Was Ally of Al Qaeda in Kosovo
Reuters via Yahoo! News ^ | Fri Feb 15, 1:08 PM ET | Andrew Roche

Posted on 02/15/2002 11:11:17 AM PST by Spar

osevic: U.S. Was Ally of Al Qaeda in Kosovo

Fri Feb 15, 1:08 PM ET

By Andrew Roche

THE HAGUE (Reuters) - Slobodan Milosevic (news - web sites) told his war crimes trial on Friday "genocidal" U.S. forces had been the unwitting ally of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) in Kosovo, and demanded Bill Clinton and other Western leaders come to testify.

Bin Laden's al Qaeda was "one of the fundamentalist groups which sent a unit to fight in Kosovo" alongside Muslim Kosovo Albanians aided by the United States against Serb forces in 1998-9, the fallen Yugoslav leader told The Hague (news - web sites) tribunal.

"The attacks on New York and Washington show what the terrorism you sponsored looks like when it turns against you," he said in a speech that ranged across centuries of history and much of the globe, and exhausted court interpreters.

Milosevic, 60, was extradited from Belgrade seven months ago to a jail cell in The Hague. On Tuesday his trial began for crimes against humanity in Kosovo in 1999 and in Croatia in 1991-2, and for genocide in the 1992-5 Bosnian war.

Prosecutors have this week portrayed him as prime mover in a decade of massacres, torture, mass rape and expulsions by Serbs.

In a second day of reply to prosecutors' opening addresses, he blamed the carnage entirely on his Balkan enemies and NATO (news - web sites). Echoing the language of his indictment, he said the West itself had committed "genocide and crimes against humanity."

"I'm asking what kind of tribunal this is, if you refuse to try people for these crimes by the leaders and armies of NATO countries," a coolly pugnacious Milosevic told judges.

On the fourth day of what is forecast to be a marathon case, he insisted the hundreds of thousands of ethnic Albanians who fled Kosovo in 1999 during the NATO air war against Yugoslavia had been driven out not by Serbs but by their fellow Albanians.

The guerrilla Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) "referred to all Albanians who did not flee Kosovo as traitors," he said, creating an "illusion of exodus." "There were hundreds of cameras waiting at the borders to show alleged Serb misdeeds."

The motive was to justify NATO's attack, said Milosevic, showing the court pictures of carbonized bodies of civilians killed by NATO bombs in Kosovo and the rest of Serbia in 1999.

CHINESE EMBASSY BOMBING

NATO missiles destroyed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, in what Washington insisted was a mistake by Central Intelligence Agency (news - web sites) target planners using an outdated map.

"It is quite clear that (former U.S. president) Clinton wanted to go down in history as the first man to bomb Chinese territory by bombing the Chinese embassy," Milosevic said. "This was no accident."

Milosevic accused Germany of setting out to destroy old communist Yugoslavia by its support for Slovenian and Croatian independence, and by secret backing of Albanian "terrorists."

"The German intelligence service rallied up criminals from all over Europe. They were pushed to Kosovo," he said.

Bin Laden, meanwhile, used anarchic Albania as a launchpad for violence in the Balkans and elsewhere in Europe, he said.

Some Muslim "terrorists" in Kosovo, had they not been jailed by Serbia, would now be "going in chains to Guantanamo Bay" from Afghanistan (news - web sites) instead, the white-haired Milosevic insisted.

"While Americans transport al Qaeda terrorists to Guantanamo...at the same time they demand all Albanian terrorists be freed from prisons in Yugoslavia," he added.

The involvement in the Balkans of Mujahideen guerrillas from Arab states and Afghanistan is well-documented, and U.S. agents followed the trail of bin Laden and his followers in Albania and Kosovo itself, before the September 11 attacks.

Accusing NATO of the use of especially lethal cluster bombs, he showed the court a photograph of a Serb woman killed while plowing her field and corpses of children in pajamas.

"This is an example of bestiality, targeting people in this way," he said, adding NATO bombed at night to maximize deaths among sleeping civilians. He showed pictures of shattered hospitals, an old people's home, buses, houses and workplaces, some strewn with charred and bloodied bodies.

After NATO occupied Kosovo in June 1999, they allowed Serbs to be killed or forced out by Albanian "terrorists" and "savages." More than 100 Serb Orthodox churches were razed in a campaign he likened to Taliban destruction of Buddhist statues.

Kosovo, seen by Serbs as a historic heartland, was now run by an "Albanian drug mafia" and the sex-slave trade, he said.

CALLS CLINTON, ALBRIGHT, BLAIR, SCHROEDER

"I am going to call witnesses here and I want it to be possible to question Clinton and Albright and Kinkel and Schroeder and Kohl and Dini... Kofi Annan (news - web sites)... Blair," he said, listing Western and U.N. leaders involved in Balkan peace talks.

Milosevic wants them to testify that the West used him as a peacemaker in the Bosnian war before turning against him.

Under the tribunal's procedures Milosevic is expected to produce a list of witnesses he wants called. The three judges have the final say on whether witnesses are subpoenaed.

The reformist Yugoslav government, which handed Milosevic to The Hague, on Friday called his testimony "disgusting." But the Russian parliament branded the tribunal a "political" court which had failed to charge NATO states for atrocities.

During his afternoon speech, Milosevic compared Clinton's strategy in fighting the Kosovo war to that of Adolf Hitler's: to establish a strategic base from which to attack Russia. He described the policy the Austro-Hungarian empire had adopted toward the territories of the crumbling Ottoman empire in the 19th and 20th centuries, that of keeping Serbia weak and the Balkans divided, he said. Presiding Judge Richard May urged Milosevic to slow down so interpreters could keep up.

Dressed in a navy suit and a tie in the red, blue and white Serbian colors, Milosevic sits flanked by seated guards in a courtroom sealed off from the public gallery by a bullet-proof glass wall and equipped with computer screens and cameras.

Milosevic is conducting his own defense, after refusing to appoint counsel or enter a formal plea on the grounds the court has no right to judge him, but is advised by Belgrade lawyers.

Judges have entered not guilty pleas on his behalf and appointed three lawyers as "friends of the court" to ensure he gets a fair trial. The "friends" on Friday appealed for judges to give him leeway in the length of his address, and he was allowed to continue on Monday until 1 p.m.

Milosevic could face life in prison if convicted at the end of an epic trial some expect to last at least two years.


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To: Mladic Garde
the question he posed was: Were you IN Serbia for any length of time? Where were you if you were? What time frame if you were?

No I wasn't, and I could be wrong about the extent of distribution of the smaller free presses. I do know some Serbs in Germany, but then they support the opposition side. I also know a lot of U.S. soldiers who were there. What basically got me is people here painting Milosovic as a benevolent, pro-democracy leader, when in fact he is a murderous nationalist.

161 posted on 02/17/2002 2:04:08 AM PST by Quila
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To: Spar
You mean like what happened with Gore in Florida, Quila???

How did I know someone would bring that up? Gore was not a sitting president, he was one of two non-presidential candidates. And GW took office after the Supreme Court made a final ruling. There had to be riots in the streets and trashing of government offices before Milosovic left. And you know he wouldn't have left if the Army hadn't deserted him.

Gee Quila, if it's illegal and subversive for the Chinese to contribute in our American political system it seems only fair that the Yugoslavs would feel the same about Clinton money.

Was that illegal under Serbian law?

162 posted on 02/17/2002 2:08:03 AM PST by Quila
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To: Zviadist
So why then doesn't Bush say "we don't need this Balkan jerk-off, we have bigger fish to fry elsewhere" and bring all the Americans home

Have we ever learned from history?

163 posted on 02/17/2002 2:10:26 AM PST by Quila
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To: Quila

Have we ever learned from history?

Good point. What was I thinking?

165 posted on 02/17/2002 4:28:56 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Quila
By the way, the rest of your analysis of Serbia and the war is deeply flawed. I also was in Europe for the war, but I would bet a good deal closer than you were. I am not going to refute your points one-by-one unless you would like me to, but your views are incorrect on many major points.
166 posted on 02/17/2002 4:31:42 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Spar
I heard Clinton and Allbright are on his witness list..This is one trial I am anxious to see..however my guess is he will die of a mysterious illness before the trial!
167 posted on 02/17/2002 4:54:41 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Zviadist
I also was in Europe for the war, but I would bet a good deal closer than you were.

Undoubtedly. My information is only off of European and U.S. media, Serbs and Croats I know, and soldiers and officers I know who were there from 92 to present in various capacities. Who knows, out of all of that I could have gotten a poorly painted picture, but it couldn't be that far off.

168 posted on 02/17/2002 5:09:40 AM PST by Quila
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To: Quila
Cheers. We'll talk about it sometime. I didn't mean to sound rude, by the way.
169 posted on 02/17/2002 5:28:08 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
Milosevic is certainly making some strong points about the al-Qaida in Albania and Clinton's support for the terrorists. But remember that show trials never end in acquittals. With that in mind, his "guilty" verdict will not be for the grandiose charges of "genocide," or "crimes against humanity." He'll probably be convicted for signing the death warrant of some murderer in a Serbian prison.
170 posted on 02/17/2002 6:02:01 AM PST by bimbo
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To: Quila
I used to listen to Radio Moscow on shortwave in the mid-80s, and it's hilarious how much it is really self-serving propaganda with almost no truth content.

And the contrast with NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, AOLTIMEWARNER is ... ???

171 posted on 02/17/2002 6:10:52 AM PST by bimbo
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To: bimbo
And the contrast with NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, AOLTIMEWARNER is ... ???

You've seen nothing. Constant "record wheat harvest" reports when we know we're shipping massive amounts to keep them from starving and other stuff like that. The negative comments about the West and our societies were funny. Perhaps the best was during the '84 election where Radio Moscow was almost one huge Mondale commercial -- the last thing they wanted was Reagan to stay in office.

You just don't know how far totalitarian countries go to keep their people misinformed, the "slanted news" we have is a poor attempt at best. I have a friend who has an East German map of East Berlin and the surrounding area from the Cold War era. West Berlin is on the map as one big green park. You could see West Berlin over the wall, but the map says it's not there -- and you'd better not say otherwise.

172 posted on 02/17/2002 12:54:29 PM PST by Quila
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To: Zviadist
No prob -- always willing to learn more from another viewpoint.
173 posted on 02/17/2002 12:57:15 PM PST by Quila
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To: Mladic Garde
Those soldiers are seeing "what they want to see" from the locals. The locals are not seeing Serbs how they really are.

No one I know has said anything bad about any individual Serbs they've met.

174 posted on 02/17/2002 12:57:17 PM PST by Quila
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To: Vojvodina
Thanks!!
175 posted on 02/17/2002 6:46:23 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Robert357
tHE ONLY THING GOOD ABOUT INTERNATIONAL SHOW TRIALS IS THAT THEY SOMETMES SHOW UP THE CRIMINALITY OF THOSE IN CHARGE OF THE TRIAL THEMSELVES: AS IN THIS INSTANCE.
176 posted on 02/17/2002 7:02:02 PM PST by norton
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To: Vojvodina
Vojvodina...Is the date on the photo 1944 ??
177 posted on 02/18/2002 9:20:39 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: kimosabe31
Yup... and it says (if I see correctly): "Photographed by Atsa Simich, 1944".

I've just finished writing a MASSIVE essay [first draft, though] on Kosovo [cca. 1470-2002]. Yeah, pretty damn ambitious... Haven't slept a wink. I am off to bed... I'll play some early Beach Boys... they ought to get me dozing off in no time...as always! LOL! :)

Cheers

178 posted on 02/19/2002 7:37:45 AM PST by Vojvodina
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To: Quila
Remember how hard it was for his own people to oust him after he finally lost in a free election?
Sure we remember, the people kept voting for him. He was elected twice, in elections not as corrupt as our Florida fiasco. It was not until the West dumped big bucks into a 'recall' did we suceed in 'bribing' and 'bombing' the Yugo's until they voted him out.

Sorta like when Carville and a lot of our money 'dumped' Niti in favor of Barak in Israel.

179 posted on 02/19/2002 8:00:20 AM PST by duckln
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To: Vojvodina
Congratulations on the essay. In your research, have you anywhere run across the number of Serb casualties in WW II? Somewhere I read half the Serb male population died fighting the nazis and they killed about a million Whermacht.
180 posted on 02/19/2002 8:04:20 AM PST by kimosabe31
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