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To: freeeee
This solves your problem without resorting to 3 AM Paramilitary style assaults upon your neighbor, and possibly yourself, if they get the wrong address.

That's nice but if the guy was having these parties, I wouldn't be to satisfied with a court summons. I would like the activity to cease and desist. That usually takes an arrest. When I get a speeding ticket, I just try not to get caught, but I still speed. See what I'm getting at?

And as for these deeded communities, well how big should they be? How much trouble would it be to get an entire city under one deeded community? A city could not function under several different standards. It appears to me this has already been taken care of by our founders with states. States then decide what decisions can be left to counties and cities.

And I don't have a problem with not giving long jail sentences to drug USERS. I think fines and mandatory treatments would suffice.

148 posted on 02/19/2002 9:32:52 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
I think you would have to start a new community to do this, or buy up all the property in an existing community. It's kind of like covenants - if you move into a neighborhood where one exists you have to abide by it, but they cannot impose one on a pre-existing neighborhoos unless everyone agrees.
152 posted on 02/19/2002 9:38:55 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: Texaggie79
I wouldn't be to satisfied with a court summons.

Would you prefer fraud be a criminal offense? That would still satisfy libertarian principles. In my example, your neighbor could then be arrested for breach of contract, then you could still pursue your civil case.

And as for these deeded communities, well how big should they be?

The market would decide that. Higher demand will bring more and larger communities.

How much trouble would it be to get an entire city under one deeded community?

Depends on the city. In most cases it wouldn't be easy (not impossible) to get a whole city to agree to a contract, yet those are the problems free people face. We aren't utopians you know, and never said liberty would be easy or free.

It appears to me this has already been taken care of by our founders with states. States then decide what decisions can be left to counties and cities.

You and I both agree on the 9th and 10th Amendment and the ability to establish such places, and we agree that this right is no longer recognized. It is said that SCOTUS sees the 10th as a dead letter. It seems we have a common foe here.

157 posted on 02/19/2002 9:43:42 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Texaggie79
A city could not function under several different standards.

What are you talking about? Every city with more than a few thousand inhabitants has fairly clear residential, commercial, etc. regions (either through government-imposed zoning or through natural development) with markedly different standards of normal activities and construction.

193 posted on 02/19/2002 10:37:06 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Texaggie79
That's nice but if the guy was having these parties, I wouldn't be to satisfied with a court summons. I would like the activity to cease and desist. That usually takes an arrest. When I get a speeding ticket, I just try not to get caught, but I still speed. See what I'm getting at?

I would like to see every drug agent, who participates in no-knock raids that are at wrong addresses or result in the death of someone or plant phoney evidence to wrongly convict someone, be in prison or on death row. Or BATFags, who also do knockdown raids and plant phoney evidence and kill people, be in the same places. Or Feebs, who participate in atrocities like Waco and Ruby Ridge, be in prison or on death row. Or ANY LEO who uses "asset seizure laws" to confiscate someone's property he or she covets be imprisoned. Or any politician who advocates ANY law not 100% in line with the Constitution, AND necessary, be subjected to exactly the same penalties as he or she proposes OTHERS be subjected to. Or Billy Jeff Clinton and Hil-liary be in prison just because they personally offend me with their smarmy, trailer-trash ways. However, I'll SETTLE for the eradication of these unjust, unconstitutional edicts and pardons for those wrongfully convicted under them. So you'll have to settle for the eviction, 'cause it ain't ever going to be a perfect world and there is NO RIGHT to not be offended by someone or something. You do what is rightful under the circumstances and swallow your ire at what, in a FREE society, you cannot properly do. Then you pray that YOU do not fall afoul of the deeds and covenants yourself. Because you know full well that you offend those around you (look at what you do HERE, case in point!!! ;-) ). So someone could be looking at you the same way you looked at your partying neighbor.

241 posted on 02/19/2002 1:07:43 PM PST by dcwusmc
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