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Just another transitional fossil for creationists to pretend doesn't exist.
1 posted on 02/14/2002 8:34:38 AM PST by OBAFGKM
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To: OBAFGKM
So this means that Senator Byrd is a dinosaur?
2 posted on 02/14/2002 8:38:26 AM PST by usual suspect
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To: OBAFGKM
This new dinosaur, which was probably feathered, is closely related to and almost the same age as the oldest known bird, Archaeopteryx

For the author to claim that Archaeopteryx is the oldest bird ignores the existing controversy among experts and betrays his bias. This article discusses the current debate and ends with this paragraph.

So, in the end, what is Archaeopteryx ? Was it a theropod dinosaur or a bird? Could it fly or not? Is it a crucial missing-link or a bizarre offshoot? A legitimate fossil or an artful hoax? The answers to these questions are far from complete but I'll bet that Archaeopteryx will continue to provoke curiosity and debate for a long time to come yet.

3 posted on 02/14/2002 8:42:04 AM PST by Pete
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To: OBAFGKM
The fossil was found right next to a lynx hair.
6 posted on 02/14/2002 8:46:08 AM PST by monkeyshine
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Here's Creationist SOP:

Creationist: There ARE NO transitional fossils. Look at fossil of species A that evoluionists claim evolved into fossil of species B. There's nothing in between!

Evolutionist Paleontologist: Look, I just found fossil C. It's in-between fossil A and fossil B in age, and has characteristics of both. There's yet another of the thousands of transitional forms that have been found.

Creationist: Look at fossil of species A and fossil of specis C! Look at fossil of species C and fossil of species B! There's nothing in-between! There are no transitional forms!

Evolutionist Paleontologist: Ok, I've found fossil D and fossile E. Fossil D is younger than fossil A and older than fossil C, and it has characteristics of both. Fossil E is younger than fossil C and older than fossil B. Both fossils are yet more of the thousands of transitional fossils we've discovered.

Creationist: THERE ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS! WHERE IS THE TRANSITION BETWEEN FOSSIL A AND FOSSIL D BLAH BLAH BLAH RANT RANT RANT

7 posted on 02/14/2002 8:48:03 AM PST by John H K
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Thanks for the article and the link!
8 posted on 02/14/2002 8:49:38 AM PST by Graewoulf
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Figure skating and boxing have less fraud than the history of evolutionary science.
9 posted on 02/14/2002 8:51:28 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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Quote: "This new dinosaur, which was probably feathered..."
Wow, more concrete evidence PROBABLY=Theory
11 posted on 02/14/2002 8:56:32 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: OBAFGKM
Ask Senator and Grand Wizard Robert Byrd if the theory of evolution is closer to fact or fiction, he was probably around 4 or 5000 years ago! Hell, he is so old his boxers probably make their own oil!

As for the Bible vs. evolution, I am staying out of this one!! Believe what you like.

17 posted on 02/14/2002 10:46:22 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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19 posted on 02/15/2002 2:11:13 AM PST by Gladwin
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A bit of the famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

01: Site that debunks virtually all of creationism's fallacies. Excellent resource.
02: Creation "Science" Debunked.
03: Creationi sm and Pseudo Science. Familiar cartoon then lots of links.
04: The SKEPTIC annotated bibliography. Amazingly great meta-site!
05: The Evidence for Human Evolution. For the "no evidence" crowd.
06: Massi ve mega-site with thousands of links on evolution, creationism, young earth, etc..
07: Another amazing site full of links debunking creationism.
08: Creationism and Pseudo Science. Great cartoon!
09: Glenn R. Morton's site about creationism's fallacies. Another jennyp contribution.
11: Is Evolution Science?. Successful PREDICTIONS of evolution (Moonman62).
12: Five Major Misconceptions about Evolution. On point and well-written.
13: Frequently Asked But Never Answered Questions. A creationist nightmare!
14: DARWIN, FULL TEXT OF HIS WRITINGS. The original ee-voe-lou-shunist.

The foregoing was just a tiny sample. So that everyone will have access to the accumulated "Creationism vs. Evolution" threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review: The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 15].

21 posted on 02/15/2002 2:48:35 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: OBAFGKM
Do you know how many times in the last five years some fossil hunter has claimed that one of their finds "proves beyond all doubt" the dino-bird link?

Remember the one from last year that later proved to be the fossil of two creatures supperimposed on one another? I hope you will forgive me if I am a bit jaded and skepitcal toward such claims at this point. We will see how this holds up. In the meantime, you guys can get to work explaining how the avian continuous through-put resiratory system could possible evlove from the in-out system of all other vertebrates.

PS- if they find any older bird fossils I will consider the growing possiblity that dinosaurs evolved from birds.

23 posted on 02/15/2002 3:09:06 AM PST by Ahban
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