[steve-b]

And as for 15 year olds spilling their seed they shouldn't be having sex in the first place.

OK, we need a scorecard here:

1. Masturbation is sex. (Source: oremus)
2. Fellatio is not sex. (Source: Bill Clinton)

Anything else to add?

[oremus]

Right. Masturbation is sex - with yourself. Intrinsically disordered. Male and female genitals by their very nature are made to be complimentary. The language of the body is SELF-GIFT, not SELF-GRATIFICATION.

This stuff is just too logical for the mindless, sex and self-intoxicated masses.

[martin_fierro]

LOL.