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To: fortheDeclaration
Did Jesus wish to raise all the dead FTD? Or did He only call forth the one He chose?

Are all the dead going to raised sometime? (Dan.12:2,Phil.2:10 Rev.20)

That is not an answer to my question Ftd. The question I asked you was if the call is Universal why didn't every dead man raise from the dead..why only the one He chose?

67 posted on 02/15/2002 7:01:17 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
That is not an answer to my question Ftd. The question I asked you was if the call is Universal why didn't every dead man raise from the dead..why only the one He chose?

The 'call' to be raised from the dead is Universal, since all will be raised from the dead, either to spend eternity with God or to spend eternity in the Lake of Fire. However, it happens at various stages. In fact, you had some dead being raised right after the Crucifixion (Mat.27:52-53)!

Since you are trying to make an analogy out of a dead man rising from the dead, all dead will arise so what does that prove? Also, Lazarus died again physically, can you die again spiritually?(shades of Arminanism!) Also, Lararus was called directly by name because Christ loved him(Jn.11:36) and his sisters, and Lazarus (and the sisters) had responded to that love.

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die, Believest thou this?...Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that , if thou wouldest believe,(what? God wasn't giving them the faith?) thou shouldest see the glory of God?(Jn.11:26,40) Sounds like God was glorifed by the faith shown by the sisters who believed that Christ could raise the dead!
Finally, Do the 'dead' cease to think and feel?(Lk.16)
It is from their false concept of man's depraved nature that the Calvinists attempt to bolster their doctrine of Total Depravity. There are three analogies that are used to do this:dead men, babies, and creatures...By comparing an unregenerate sinner to a dead man, a baby and a creature, Calvinists attempt to prove that man has the ability to repent and believe the Gospel. But as we shall presently see, each of these analogies is disparged by no less a Calvinist than Aruther W. Pink. The first is very important to the Calvinist since it actually mentions the fact of man's spiritual death...all Calvinists, without fail, make analogy between their doctrine of Total Depravity and physically dead men n general, or in an attempt to get scriptural, to Lazarus in particular...Pink expressly discounted this analogy that his fellow Calvinists are so fond of:'instead of attempting to draw analogies between spiritual and physical death and deriving inferences from them, we must stick very closely to the Scriptures and regulate all our thoughts by them...another reason these analogies all break down when viewed as an exact parallel to the salvation of a sinner is the matter of responsibility...if you make an exact parallel between a physically dead man and a spiritually dead dead man and say that neither one can believe on Jesus Christ, then you likewise have to say that neither one cannot not believe, If a dead man can't accept Christ because he is dead then he can't reject him either. A dead man cannot believe on Jesus Christ, but a dead sinner can(The Other Side of Calvinism, Vance,p.220-223)

72 posted on 02/15/2002 3:31:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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