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To: the_doc,Rnmomof7,CCWoody,OrthodoxPresbyterian, George W. Bush,
You still lose. Your soteriological position is not the historic Baptist position, but the historic Romanist position.

It is! Well, as long as you said it must so! I did not know that the Roman Catholics taught salvation by faith and faith alone, How about that! I bet old Luther would be suprised to hear that!

The Reformers and the key Anabaptists ardently opposed your semi-Pelagian position. Even Luther himself specifically declared that this controversy--in which you are siding with the Romanists!--was the pivotal issue of the Reformation.

See what liars you Calvinists are! Now, I am a 'semi-Pelagian' am I? Since Pelagius denied Original Sin (I do not) and since Pelagius believed in works to earn salvation (I do not) what part is the 'semi'?

You need to figure out why Luther said that. You need to make sure you are not like so many of today's proud Baptists--who do not clearly know what justifying faith is.

You know what the funniest part about you clowns is that you guys actually believe you are smart! LOL! I know very well what 'justifying faith' is, it is stated in Acts 16:31, 'believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved...', now you tell me what part of that do you not understand?

As for 'proud Baptists' no Baptist in the world could match the egos, ignorance and downright dishonesty demonstrated by you group of Reformed thugs.

One Calvinist stated that you guys are not representative of the normal Reformed group, I hope so, because I never saw a more clear demonstration of why we need to keep you guys away from political power. Thank God for the 2nd Amendment!

131 posted on 02/17/2002 8:03:47 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration; Jerry_M; the_doc; RnMomof7
See what liars you Calvinists are! Now, I am a 'semi-Pelagian' am I? Since Pelagius denied Original Sin (I do not) and since Pelagius believed in works to earn salvation (I do not) what part is the 'semi'?

You are not!?!

I do not believe 'soul' life begins until after birth, when God gives it at birth with the breath of life (Gen.2:7) (there is of course,before that physical life). When an infant dies, he goes to heaven since he is under the blood (Rom.5:18) and hasn't said no to the free gift (Jn.16:9). See 2Sam.12:23. - post #85 fortheDeclaration
What is it that God breathes into an infant at birth; a dead spirit? Your theology has all men conceived fully under the Blood of Christ, which they must then reject. Ummm!, I hate to say this to you, but Adam rejected God a long time ago and the entire race fell under Original Sin. The more I think about what you have posted in #85, the more it seems that you pay lip service only to Original Sin.
144 posted on 02/18/2002 5:24:55 AM PST by CCWoody
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