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To: RnMomof7
This verse speaks to God displaying Himself in creation..that even the heathan can see Him in their darkness..(All creation speaks of God)

Of course! I have not denied that God is visible to those who hate Him; that He has never been far from anyone. fortheDeclaration wants to maintain that this verse teaches that God has given all men a desire to seek God [or reject Him] in a saving kind of way; removing the effects of Original Sin I suppose.

123 posted on 02/17/2002 5:40:30 PM PST by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody,Rnmomof7
This verse speaks to God displaying Himself in creation..that even the heathan can see Him in their darkness..(All creation speaks of God)

The verse states that the Gentiles can 'seek God' which according to your 'Total Depravity' view they cannot.

Of course! I have not denied that God is visible to those who hate Him; that He has never been far from anyone.

Now, how can a 'corpse' see God? Why would they 'seek him' if they hate him?

fortheDeclaration wants to maintain that this verse teaches that God has given all men a desire to seek God [or reject Him] in a saving kind of way; removing the effects of Original Sin I suppose.

See what a liar you are Woody! Did I say one word about desire? I said the ability to seek Him. Now that is what your Calvinism denies is not possible.

Tell me, Rnmomof7, could Larazus 'seek God' when he was physically dead? That was the analogy that you were using just a few posts ago!

129 posted on 02/17/2002 7:49:58 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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