[rwfromkansas]

First, for me not to call you a hypocrite, have you been in the military? If not, have you forced any older kids, if you have any, to be? If you say yes to the first question (and second if you have kids of that age), I will consider your opinion seriously.

[Little John]

Yes I served ..... and so did my son. At best your questions show your immaturity, and at worst your ignorance. The goal in raising children is to teach them to think for themselves and to be honorable and meet their responsibilities. If a child can be "forced" at age 18 the parent has failed.