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To: lavaroise
most excellent.

i live near the mexican border and see the hysteria daily here on the forum.

so, your view is that the chicoms will survive by terrorism in the western hemisphere against the united states?

the c.i.a. is betting that ethnic rivalries and class rivalries will implode the chinese empire.

fukuyama's book "trust" explains that the chicom leadership is of the same large extended family, which includes the riadys, i believe. most americans are unaware of this. it's a large family analogous to the sauds of saudi arabia.

13 posted on 02/12/2002 5:02:59 PM PST by ken21
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To: ken21
There has been a potential to pit Ukrainians against Russians for the past 70 years and it never happened. Even though Ukrainians have been socialy cleansed by the Russians first, even though, after that, Ukrainians operatives were used to organise the social cleansing of Russians and the running of Gulags, to this day, both Ukrainians and Russians see the US as a threat.

Even though communism is an evil cult that cares for no nation nor man, it still is a cult that is now viewed with nostalgia there. There is nothing hysterical about this, it is a fact that Russians and Ukrainians still see as their enemy the participation of the proletarian in the sharing of the financial risk taking that the bourgeois in banks and big business take.

They somehow believe that, being at the bottom of the social classes, they do not have anything to fear from communism but everything to fear from big business risk taking, notwithstanding the threat that people amongst them who maintain themselves at the lower class will denounce them one day again in the revolutionary cycle.

These people not only lack business confidence and manly confidence in business, they also fear a second revolution and the lack of commonality with their acquaintances. The bottom line commonality between men is the risk they take. Ideals of a commonality in the works of healing or God believing is speculative on the other hand.

Think about it, communism in in Russia and in China are a very strong cohesive force. THe CIA is being naive in speculating about Chinese ethnic strife. It won't happen and cannot be leveraged with economic incentives or cyclical winds of political reforms and revolutions. Communism lays at the bottom stable level of these cycles. You can bush a ball in bowl only that much, and it always will come back down. And that is exactly the hopes and probably accurate anticipation of the communists, sadly. It is not until we acknowledge this threat and strength of evil that we will be able to do something real about this situation.

14 posted on 02/13/2002 2:37:13 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: ken21
As for the Fukuyama family, it just proves that communism works within groups of commonality with common risks.
15 posted on 02/13/2002 2:39:40 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: ken21
the c.i.a. is betting that ethnic rivalries and class rivalries will implode the chinese empire.

Class, ethnic and religious struggles are what strengthen communism and those nations. It is their foundation.

16 posted on 02/13/2002 3:50:39 AM PST by lavaroise
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