[RaceBannon]

No, I am just pointing out the absurdity of the idea that this proves it could happen in nature. This was a complex series of things done here, done in a sterile atmosphere, done in a guided way, performed over a series of tests until they got it right...and yet, that is supposed to show it could happen by chance?? Pul-Eaze!!

This whole event is something spectacular for DESIGN, because THAT'S WHAT IT IS, INTELLIGENT DESIGN, not chance/evolution/survival of the fittest.

[Nebullis]

This was a complex series of things done here, done in a sterile atmosphere, done in a guided way, performed over a series of tests until they got it right...and yet, that is supposed to show it could happen by chance??

Nobody is suggesting that the complex series of events in the lab were performed in nature.

Take another look at the figure I posted at #33. At the very top you can see a sequence of blue highlighted amino acids labeled 'DmUbx'. Thats the sequence in the fly, the one with the repressor fully functional. Now, move down that list until you see the one labeled 'AfUbx'. That's the sequence in the shrimp, the one that has no repressor function. Can you count how many amino acids are different in that region? I count 17.

You are saying that natural mutations, over the course of millions of years, could not account for these 17 changes.

Can you tell us why not?

[Lev]

This was a complex series of things done here, done in a sterile atmosphere, done in a guided way, performed over a series of tests until they got it right...and yet, that is supposed to show it could happen by chance??

Yes, it was a complex series of things, but its purpose was to find a set of 'simple' genetic changes that lead to the change in body plan.
You may have to perform a complex series of steps to open a combination lock but a million monkeys playing with it long enough will open it 'by chance'.
Regards.

[jennyp]

This whole event is something spectacular for DESIGN, because THAT'S WHAT IT IS, INTELLIGENT DESIGN, not chance/evolution/survival of the fittest.

IOW: "No experiment can provide a valid explanation of anything that happens in nature, because all experiments are designed." It's so simple, & so obvious. You want to protect your particular religious interpretation in the face of a specific theory of biology, and you just don't care if it destroys the validity of each & every experiment ever performed in the history of science in the process. For shame.