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To: PatrickHenry
The famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

I just want to clear up a few things... I'm not a big "E" Evolutionist, but that doesn't make me a big "C" Creationist. Therefore, I'm not threatened by the idea that Evolution of some sort has taken place. I'm persuaded that the Universe is 12 to 16 billion years old, and the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old. Most of what you believe about geology and genetics, I also believe.

I also beleive in God, and that He's the author of this in one way or another. I'm a big fan of good science, because I'm a big fan of truth.

But I also have little tolerance for sloppy science. Wouldn't you agree that there's a lot of that around? Cold Fusion, Ozone Hoax, Global Warming, etc....

I didn't start this thread at ground zero, and if you take a look, I've generally refrained from commenting on aspects of Creationism that are somewhat shopworn, IMO. BTW, your Creation/Evolution resource is a good one, and I've had it bookmarked for a while. Notice also, I've repeatedly tried to bring the thread back to a rather narrow question...

"Where is the observation or evidence of random spontaneous mutagenic speciation?"

Is that not a fair scientific question?


190 posted on 02/04/2002 8:14:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
"Where is the observation or evidence of random spontaneous mutagenic speciation?" Is that not a fair scientific question?

No. It's a loaded question. You want to see an example of random speciation, when all we will ever see, in a human lifespan, is random mutation. The cumulative effects of the sometimes-successful mutations will, over time, generate a new species. If you are looking to see evidence of a goldfish spontaneously producing a dog, so am I. That would be a miracle, and I haven't seen any sign of that.

196 posted on 02/04/2002 8:31:37 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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